First A.G Lager- water treatment help needed
First A.G Lager- water treatment help needed
With half a dozen successful A.G. ales done I'm now about to do my first lager. I have up to 7 Kg of lager malt and some Hallertauer Hersbrucker hops I'll be using White Labs WLP830 German Lager yeast. My water is hard and has a pH of 5.8. Should I add a quantity of distilled water to reduce the pH? if so how much?
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Do you know the mineral content of your water?
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The pH of your water is irrelevant. You need to know its alkalinity. To test this get a Salifert kit. Only then can you work out how to treat it.
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I'm about to do my fist lager too, having done 40-50 ales. For 6 quid, I've bought three 6x2L mulitpacks of Tesco Ashbeck to avoid ending up with too minerally a profile by treating my own water. Just a bit of calcium chloride and gypsum (to get the calcium in the right area), and I should be there.
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Honestly if you want to get into water treatment then you need a salifert alkalinity test kit and (ideally) a pH meter.
Without, you'll still make lager, so if you're not doing it for ales then maybe for the first lager you can omit it too.
Without, you'll still make lager, so if you're not doing it for ales then maybe for the first lager you can omit it too.
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Before that you need a water report from someone who knows what brewers are looking for. Ask wallybrew on here to do this for you. Anything else is blind archery.Jocky wrote:Honestly if you want to get into water treatment then you need a salifert alkalinity test kit and (ideally) a pH meter.
Without, you'll still make lager, so if you're not doing it for ales then maybe for the first lager you can omit it too.
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I'll second the, get a water report from wallybrew. I've just this week got a report from him.
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When brewing you can hide in a stout and get away with some things but Lager is a highly strung sort of a lass . You need good water.
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Isn't that a Paralympic sport?orlando wrote:Anything else is blind archery.
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Although I normally treat my (high alkalinity) water for ales, I have used this method as a quick fix for lager. The bottles have all the relevant info printed on the label, I then used this info along with the relevant profile in GW water calculator on this site, for the extra additions. Worked great.MTW wrote:I'm about to do my fist lager too, having done 40-50 ales. For 6 quid, I've bought three 6x2L mulitpacks of Tesco Ashbeck to avoid ending up with too minerally a profile by treating my own water. Just a bit of calcium chloride and gypsum (to get the calcium in the right area), and I should be there.
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Yes, I've run the figures through that. The only thing missing on the bottles in alkalinity, which I've measured as 16ppm CACO3 in Ashbeck myself.Sadfield wrote:Although I normally treat my (high alkalinity) water for ales, I have used this method as a quick fix for lager. The bottles have all the relevant info printed on the label, I then used this info along with the relevant profile in GW water calculator on this site, for the extra additions. Worked great.MTW wrote:I'm about to do my fist lager too, having done 40-50 ales. For 6 quid, I've bought three 6x2L mulitpacks of Tesco Ashbeck to avoid ending up with too minerally a profile by treating my own water. Just a bit of calcium chloride and gypsum (to get the calcium in the right area), and I should be there.
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Just re read that op and I be surprised that your drinking water is 5.8 PH.
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I don't have one to hand, but doesn't the label give the bicarbonate value anyway?MTW wrote:Yes, I've run the figures through that. The only thing missing on the bottles in alkalinity, which I've measured as 16ppm CACO3 in Ashbeck myself.Sadfield wrote:Although I normally treat my (high alkalinity) water for ales, I have used this method as a quick fix for lager. The bottles have all the relevant info printed on the label, I then used this info along with the relevant profile in GW water calculator on this site, for the extra additions. Worked great.MTW wrote:I'm about to do my fist lager too, having done 40-50 ales. For 6 quid, I've bought three 6x2L mulitpacks of Tesco Ashbeck to avoid ending up with too minerally a profile by treating my own water. Just a bit of calcium chloride and gypsum (to get the calcium in the right area), and I should be there.
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Not in the hands of a brewer.rpt wrote:Isn't that a Paralympic sport?orlando wrote:Anything else is blind archery.
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Agreed, suppliers are obliged to keep it close to neutral. Irrelevant to a brewer anyway but another reason for having a proper analysis.john luc wrote:Just re read that op and I be surprised that your drinking water is 5.8 PH.
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