BJCP Course - start 20/11/11 - Bristol + Distance learning

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BJCP Course - start 20/11/11 - Bristol + Distance learning

Post by alikocho » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:49 am

The BJCP course will begin on Sunday 20 November, 2-4pm at St Werburghs Community centre (here - http://www.stwerburghs.org.uk/contactus.php).

The course is free, but space and beer cost money, so a modest contribution per session will be expected. If you have not already confirmed that you wish to study and take the exam please do so asap. Only those intending to take the exam will be accepted as participants on the course.

See the schedule below for all dates and topics. Live weblinkup will be setup for distance learning. See the attached spreadsheet for details of beers to be tasted and where to source them - http://www.bristolhomebrewcompetition.o ... styles.xls


Class 1 – November 20th
• Styles - Light Lagers: 1A-Light American Lager, 1B-Standard American Lager, 1CPremium American Lager, 1D-Munich Helles, 1E-Dortmunder Export, 2AGerman
Pilsner, 2B-Bohemian Pilsener, 2C-Classic American Pilsner
• Technical Topic: Troubleshooting I – how positive and negative attributes are
perceived and produced, the beer styles with which they may be associated
and corrective measures to their regard. Flavour descriptors on the beer
scoresheet (left hand side) will be divided into two sections.

Class 2 – December 11
• Styles – Amber and Dark Lagers: 3A-Vienna Lager, 3B-Oktoberfest/Marzen, 4A-Dark American Lager, 4B-Munich Dunkel, 4C-Schwarzbier, 5A-Maibock/Helles
Bock, 5B-Traditional Bock, 5C-Doppelbock, 5D Eisbock
• Technical Topic: Troubleshooting II

Class 3 – January 22
• Styles –Bitters and Pale Ales: 8A-Standard/Ordinary Bitter, 8B Special/Best/Premium Bitter, 8C-Extra Special/Strong Bitter, 7B-California Common
• Technical Topic: Malt, including the malting process, types, adjuncts, kilning and
the styles with which different malts are associated.

Class 4 – February 19
• Styles – American Ale and India Pale Ale(IPA): 6A-Cream Ale, 6B-Blonde Ale, 10AAmerican Pale Ale, 10B-American Amber Ale, 10C-American Brown Ale,
14A-English IPA, 14B-American IPA, 14C-Imperial IPA
• Technical Topic: Mashing, including types used for different beer styles, mash
schedules and enzymes.

Class 5 – March 18
• Styles –Stouts and Porters: 12A-Brown Porter, 12B-Robust Porter, 12C-Baltic Porter,13A-Dry Stout, 13B-Sweet Stout, 13C-Oatmeal Stout, 13D Foreign Extra
Stout, 13E-American Stout, 13F-Russian Imperial Stout
• Technical Topic: Water, including minerals, pH, hardness, adjustment, and the
effect on the development of world beer styles.

Class 6 – April 22
• Styles –Brown, Scottish and Strong Ales: 11A-Mild, 11B-Southern English Brown,
11C-Northern English Brown, 9A-Scottish Light 60/-, 9B-Scottish Heavy70/-,
9C-Scottish Export 80/-, 9D-Irish Red Ale, 9E-Strong Scotch Ale
• Technical Topic: Yeast and fermentation, including characteristics of different
yeast strains, bacteria, by-products and relationship to world beer styles.

Class 7 – May 20
• Styles – German Ales, Wheat Beers and Rauchbiers: 6C-Kolsch, 6D-American Wheat orRye Beer, 7A-Northern German Altbier, 7C-Dusseldorf Altbier, 15AWeizen/Weissbier, 15B-Dunkelweizen, 15C-Weizenbock, 15D Roggenbier
(German Rye Beer), 22A-Classic Rauchbier, 22B-Other Smoked Beer
• Technical Topic: Hops, including varieties, IBUs, hopping scheduled and the
association with different beer styles.

Class 8 – June 17
• Styles –Strong Belgian and French Ales: 18B-Belgian Dubbel, 18C-Belgian Tripel,
18D-Belgian Golden Strong Ale, 18E-Belgian Dark Strong Ale, 16C-Saison,
16D-Biere de Garde
• Technical Topic: Brewing procedures, including sparging, boiling, fining and
carbonation methods. Reasons for each and potential problems associated
with each.

Class 9 – July 15
• Styles - Barleywines and Old Ale: 19A-Old Ale, 19B-English Barleywine, 19C American Barleywine
• Technical Topic: Recipe Formulation, including the selection of appropriate
hops, malt, water, yeast and brewing procedure for different styles.

Class 10 – August 19
• Styles - Other Belgian Ales: 16A-Witbier, 16B-Belgian Pale Ale, 17B-Flanders Red Ale,
17C-Flanders Brown Ale/Oud Bruin, 17E-Gueze, 17F-Fruit Lambic
• Beer good and bad – practice judging

Class 11 – September 16
• Doctored Beer Seminar
• What to expect on the exam

Exam – 14 October 2012 (tentative)
January 2013
March 2013

lancsSteve

Re: BJCP Course - start 20/11/11 - Bristol + Distance learni

Post by lancsSteve » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:34 pm

Hi Ali,

Sounds good. For some of the beers for anyone at a distance where BoE are out of stock (e.g. Dortmunder Union Export, Jever Pilsener) and other suppliers like Beers Emporium don't have stock (though they do have Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest Marzen in stock unlike BoE) do you have any suggestions?

Would an alternatives list defeat the purpose or is it example of style rather than identical beer that will be important?

Steve

alikocho

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Post by alikocho » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:10 pm

lancsSteve wrote:Hi Ali,

Sounds good. For some of the beers for anyone at a distance where BoE are out of stock (e.g. Dortmunder Union Export, Jever Pilsener) and other suppliers like Beers Emporium don't have stock (though they do have Hacker Pschorr Oktoberfest Marzen in stock unlike BoE) do you have any suggestions?

Would an alternatives list defeat the purpose or is it example of style rather than identical beer that will be important?

Steve
I'll come up with alternatives as needed. In general terms it is the style that is important, but if tasting is going to be consistent for discussion with a group AND distance learners, then the same beer is going to be useful.

Tom_D

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Post by Tom_D » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:47 pm

I'm definitely interested Ali. What do I need to do to put my name forward?

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Post by alix101 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:04 pm

As above I'm defiantly interested how do you sign up for the distance learning ?
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Post by leedsbrew » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:45 pm

alix101 wrote:As above I'm defiantly interested how do you sign up for the distance learning ?

+1 for the distance learning.

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Post by alikocho » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:09 pm

could those who want to do the distance learning (and who haven't already emailed me) email on alikocho at googlemail.com

Going to make my life way easier in coordinating 50+ people across Europe.

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Post by alix101 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:27 pm

Anyone having luck finding the beers listed for the 11 th they seem, to be sold out
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Re: BJCP Course - start 20/11/11 - Bristol + Distance learni

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:39 pm

I ordered a while back and did OK except for the traditional and helles/maibocks (anyone else found ANY of those?) it's 26 euros del;ivery from www.biershop.de so unless there's a lot of clubbing together going to go down that's WAY too much!

Check the spread sheet at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... lNVYW5qZ0E for info on what's available and BJCP listed exemplar alternatives. There's an alternative Dunkel in BoE 'Goller Dunkel' as both BJCP listed ones (Weltenburger Kloster Barock Dunkel and Kaltenberg Konig Ludwig Dunkel) are out of stock.

Hope that helps!

Steve

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Post by coatesg » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:20 pm

I just ordered and went for these (no idea how good the subs are, but I figured something other than nothing might be better). The Bocks were a bit of a best guess to be honest based on what was available- the oktoberfest was quite limited in choice too.

Vienna: Negra Modelo
Oktoberfest: Augustiner Oktoberfest
Dk US Lager: Baltika no 4
Dunkel: Kloster Scheyern Export Dunkel
Schwarzbier: Monchshof Schwarzbier
Maibock: Kloster Andechs Bergbock Hell
Bock: Monchshof Bock Bier
Doppelbock: Paulaner Salvator
Eisbock: Kulmbacher Eisbock

I have a feeling I'll need to brew some of these myself from classic styles at some point as well (and then hope I don't screw it up too badly...)

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Post by alikocho » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm

coatesg wrote:I just ordered and went for these (no idea how good the subs are, but I figured something other than nothing might be better). The Bocks were a bit of a best guess to be honest based on what was available- the oktoberfest was quite limited in choice too.

Vienna: Negra Modelo
Oktoberfest: Augustiner Oktoberfest
Dk US Lager: Baltika no 4
Dunkel: Kloster Scheyern Export Dunkel
Schwarzbier: Monchshof Schwarzbier
Maibock: Kloster Andechs Bergbock Hell
Bock: Monchshof Bock Bier
Doppelbock: Paulaner Salvator
Eisbock: Kulmbacher Eisbock

I have a feeling I'll need to brew some of these myself from classic styles at some point as well (and then hope I don't screw it up too badly...)
Those are reasonable substitutions. I'm just ordering for the class now (although I can track down a few that are in stock locally)

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Post by alix101 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:33 pm

Its the eisbock I cant find I downloaded the bjcp app that had,some good, alternatives I'll keep searching
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Post by alikocho » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:43 pm

alix101 wrote:Its the eisbock I cant find I downloaded the bjcp app that had,some good, alternatives I'll keep searching
Beer sof Europe have the Kulmbacher, unless I bought them out yesterday...

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Post by coatesg » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:44 pm

alix101 wrote:Its the eisbock I cant find I downloaded the bjcp app that had,some good, alternatives I'll keep searching
The Kulmbacher Eisbock is listed here: http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog ... r_155.html

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Post by lancsSteve » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:39 pm

coatesg wrote:
Oktoberfest: Augustiner Oktoberfest
Dunkel: Kloster Scheyern Export Dunkel

Maibock: Kloster Andechs Bergbock Hell
Bock: Monchshof Bock Bier
Thanks for posting suggestions here and ALi for confirming - hopefully means we can mostly be on the saem beers for next session.

Delay on the Monschof Bock bier, should be in next week I also ordered the Rauch Urbocks from Schenkerla as never tried them and rather excited by a smoked bock...

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