First AG

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First AG

Post by yashicamat » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:01 pm

Well, completed my first AG today! I am perhaps taking things a little quickly as (apart from a few kits a couple of years ago), this is my 5th brew! I did a kit with dry hopping, then an all-extract with some steeped crystal, then a partial mash (well, only 1kg of grain plus wheat, carapils and crystal) and finally today, my first AG! :D

The recipe was a further manipulation of the Golden Pippin clone I formulated. I was going to follow the original recipe but seeing as cascades aren't plentiful I decided to conserve them and tweak it into a slightly different pale ale:

Batch size: 16 litres
6lbs pale crushed 2-row (70 minutes at 67 deg C)
0.5oz Target 11.3%AA for 50 mins
0.5oz Amarillo 9.1% for 10 mins
0.5oz Amarillo 9.1% for 4 mins
0.6oz Cascade 7.3% at flameout, 10 minute steep (this was the last of the old bag of hops hence the oddball quantity).

The mash went well, my method for mashing itself seems to be very effective. I use a 12 litre stockpot in the oven. Seems to hold about 67 deg C almost exactly throughout the entire volume of the mash during the 70 minutes. My sparging method leaves a lot to be desired though. I was going to use a collander with the grains till in the grain bag, but unfortunately it didn't hold well at all. Instead, I refilled the 12 litre stockpot with water and heated to 77 deg C, then placed the bag back in again, stirred the grains well for a few moments, then removed them, giving them a gentle squeeze to get as much liquid out as possible. I was worried about my conversion success, but I came up with the following figures though:

16 litres collected at a gravity of 1043 (at 21 deg C)
If I have done my maths correctly, this equates to about 74% efficiency which I am very pleased with given my very crude means! I was expecting about 65% to 70%. :D

The rest of the brew was textbook, although I didn't get the vigerous foaming prior to the hot break as I have done in the past with extracts . . . . :?:

In case you were wondering, 16 litre batch is due to my 18.5 litre boiling pot putting a limit on me. However, it has the advantage that it should leave enough headroom in the Betta Bottle for the krausen without the need for a blowoff tube (although that said, the overall volume ended up closer to 17.5 litres due to the starter being 1.5 litres or so).

All in all though, a good brewday! Things more or less went to plan and I will definately be doing AG again! :D
Rob

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Re: First AG

Post by Dennis King » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:44 pm

Another one to the dark side

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Re: First AG

Post by Horden Hillbilly » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:54 pm

Congrats on your 1st ag brew, nice one! 8)

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Re: First AG

Post by prolix » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:54 pm

well done mate no going back now!

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Re: First AG

Post by Vossy1 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:59 am

Good work Y :wink:

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Re: First AG

Post by prodigal2 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:10 pm

nice one there. Welcome to the dark side. :D

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Re: First AG

Post by fivetide » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:03 pm

Wow.

Your ad hoc method was actually quite complex compared to yer basic AG brewday, so consider yourself well qualified to mash away, however rapid you're travelling!

All the best with the brew - hope it's a cracker.

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Re: First AG

Post by yashicamat » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:20 pm

Thanks for the replies. :)

Just had a peek at the fermenter. Krausen level is much lower than previous brews (a characteristic of AG or maybe more importantly, just 2-row?) but the fermentation is very lively. :D
Rob

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Re: First AG

Post by cooldad » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:56 pm

I'm new to this as well but as soon as you taste the differance between kits and a.g. there is no turning back , plus you can brew what you like to drink .If you cannot find the reciepe of the beer you want to make a quick phone call to the brewery and normally they are very helpful and give you tthe grain they use the ratios , the hops and ibu ,so with that information put it into beersmith or similar and you won't be far off.
keg 18th special
keg 2 proper job clone
keg 3 fullers porter
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planned ,everything.

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