Northdown & Cascade for Christmas - White Deer

[Tarmac]

White Deer

8.5 kg Crisps Europils, Mashed at 66c

Northdown 60 mins

Northdown 30 mins
Cascade 30 mins

Northdown 1 min
Cascade 1 min

Total IBU 20, 45 - 46 litres in the fermenters.

It’s all about the Northdown, with a bit of UK cascade. A good session ale, plenty of taste and a cheap not so common, boring brew, using boring leaf hops

A favourite hop, along with Nelson Sauvin, Mosaic, Centennial, Citra. Northdown much cheaper and makes an amazing beer.

Good old Wilko yeast, great stuff.

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[MashBag]

I do a lot of cascade as a pale hop forward ale.

Was thinking about replacing the bittering with something else. This sounds good.

[MashBag]

Can you share the boil time and quantities?

[Tarmac]

Hi Mashbag,

Sorry for delay in replying.

Try this:

3.8kg pale malt
60g crystal, if you’ve only got dark, go 25g, don’t bother if you haven’t got any.
190g torrified wheat, don’t bother if you haven’t got any.

4kg pale nails it, the other malts tweak it.

ND 10g 60 min

ND 8g 30 min
Cascade 12g 30 min

ND 40g 1 min
Cascade 10g 1 min

Wilko yeast,

[MashBag]

Blimey that surprises me. I expected more ND.
My normal cascade is a45min boils with 30g @15m & 30g@30m & 40g flameout. (80c). A very 'tidy' brew, using the entire 100g pack of hops.

Looking forward to having a play.

[Tarmac]

There’s more hops in the photo as did a 46 ltr brew, suggested recipe provided is 23 ltr.

Have a play with it, it’s based around a 3.8% beer, 20 ibu region. Have tried more late hops before, didn’t work for me. The recipe is for one of my favourite beers, brewed and served up this way.

That’s the beauty of making beer, adjusting and varying things. It’s worth a go and can use hops that don’t cost £7 a packet

[MashBag]

Agree with that. Crossmyloof on ebay keep the cost of my hops down and the variety is huge.

[MashBag]

Have you seen much difference between cascade US and the cascade UK?

[barneey]

IMHO there is quite a bit of flavour difference between UK and USA Cascade. UK Cascade are a more muted experience which can be an advantage depending on what you are trying to achieve in the final result.

[MashBag]

Yup same here. Particularly with pellets.

[f00b4r]

There is also German Cascade, Australian Cascade (more like the US grown one but with grapefruit too) and New Zealand Taiheke; the latter gaining its own name.

[MashBag]

Yeah, read about the New Zealand Taiheke, but opted to give it a miss.