Kolsch

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Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:37 pm

just about to take a mouthful of the meantime cologne style lager and... yeah okay. i'll give that a go :)

I'm not really a lager drinker but that's rather nice. It'll go down well with the beer-fearing relatives anyway :roll:



Matt - what's the schedule from pitching onwards? same as Maltmans?

maltman

Post by maltman » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:46 pm

I noticed a small release of hydrogen sulfide over a few days whilst in it was in primary but this dissipated soon after.

This recipe produced a very smooth, clean and crisp beer with a very subtle fruit flavour.

Was a firm favourite with all my friends as the clean but developed malt flavour was complex enough for the ale drinkers guild while still being light enough for those who usually indulge specifically in lagers. A winner allround.

Give it a go, i am sure you will not be to disapointed. :)

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:43 pm

maltman wrote: Fermented on the cool side, 15C primary (white labs say min 18c, but with a bigger starter your fine) and secondary at 6-7c.
Read about the yeast being very dusty but this brew went crystal clear after 4 weeks at secondary for me (no finings).
so was that a week in primary or did you 'drop' at half gravity?

maltman

Post by maltman » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:03 am

I let it sit in primary until it was at final gravity (~10 days) then transferred it off the yeast cake into glass carby for the remaining 4 weeks at 6-7°C to clear and condition.

Matt

Post by Matt » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:26 am

Wow, now I am looking forward to trying this brew 8)

Coincidentally I have the parts ordered to construct a fermentation fridge, so hopefully they will arrive this week and allow me to do this properly and secondary as you did Maltman (I was planning to just ferment out and then store in the garage and take my chances).

Matt

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:21 pm

i've just sent out a request to a few mates to start sending their little lager bottles my way...

what sort of top pressure do you need to apply to a full corny at 6C in order to achieve the correct carbonation?

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:03 pm

Depends how carbonated you want it, for draught kolsch just a gentle carbonation, more than real ale but less than your standard lager, maybe around 2 vols. So at 6C that would be 8 psi. Bottled kolsch, like the Früh you get here, has quite a bit more carbonation probably at least 2.5 which would be closer to 14 psi at the same temp.

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:05 pm

perfect, Thanks myste

Matt

Post by Matt » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:43 pm

Just sampling the Kolsch now, I had left it well alone to see if the DMS cleared up and … bingo! Amazing to find that a slightly disappointing brew in its green state can improve so much. DMS has gone and its a good un. Happy days 8)

Image

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:45 pm

Looks great 8)

Matt

Post by Matt » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:06 pm

:lol:

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:27 pm

=D>

Thanks for that original post Matt - you've started something off here!

Kolsch is IT!

prodigal2

Post by prodigal2 » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:33 pm

Looks great Matt.
What a great return from a holiday. a perfect german beer..... nice. 8)
Sorry I could not provide you with more intel, yet I was away from spain at the time. I hope you had a great time.

Out of interest how does the hop flavour read?

Phil

Matt

Post by Matt » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:39 am

Gurgeh, yeah, its good gear isn't it :D I'm going to re-brew asap.

Phil, there is a nice delicateness to it on all counts - the malt and hop profile, and also the mouthfeel.

Actually, re-reading this thread, Maltman summed it up when he said "Was a firm favourite with all my friends as the clean but developed malt flavour was complex enough for the ale drinkers guild while still being light enough for those who usually indulge specifically in lagers. A winner all round."

Its good as is but I am thinking about a heretical re-brewing to 30 IBU (was 22) with Challenger instead of Saaz, I think it would suit it. Maybe another all FWH + massive aroma addition experiment :wink:

p.s. No worries re Spain. Had a great time, was nice and breezy.

Gurgeh

Post by Gurgeh » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:56 pm

i think FWH would be the way to go, yes. I actually chucked in some bramling x with my mittelfruh when i last did it and it worked really well!

I may try using the WLP029 on some of my golden ales and see what happens...

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