3rd AG - Amber Lightning

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craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:02 pm

Invalid Stout wrote:Looks fantastic, I need to get on and start building my mango chutney bolier too :)
It's a shame you're so far away, I bought two and only really needed one, it was very little for the extra one. I'm on the border of Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire if anyone else needs a lidless but clean 35l cylindrical mango chutney container - just come and pick it up..

Here is the beer 48 hours on:
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Is it just me or is the foam very slow to develop?

Cheers,
Craig

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:11 am

60 hours on (I thought these fermenting pics might help other beginners know what to expect in the fermenter):
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Craig

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:08 pm

72 Hours on. Looks like the foam has subsided, the peak is probably over. I keep reading that Safale S-04 is pretty much finished in 3-4 days. That seems to have been true on my last two batches and will probably be true for this one too:
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Tell me when the 12-hourly pics become boring! I am just excited by it all :D

Craig

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:19 pm

Well 84 hours after pitching the yeast (3.5 days), the foam has subsided, the gravity has dropped to 1.018 (so still not quite finished), and there is a good deal of sediment at the bottom of the 25l fermenter. Approx 1 inch of what looks like like solid and compacted dense trub etc. Here is the fermenter as it stands:
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And here is a shot of some of the beer in a wine glass from the hydrometer test:
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It smells absolutely divine. My wife (who uses wine-tasting words etc.) and I could pick out these smells: Blackcurrant, honey, apple blossom, jasmine, dry apricot, raisin/sherry, some malt and a general aroma like that of a dessert wine.

Colour is pale amber, still some yeasty haze, but strangely no yeast aroma or flavour. There is still some sediment floating around in the glass, but that's to be expected since fermentation hasn't finished.

The flavour was a slight let down after the aroma. Tastes and textures we picked out: Very bitter, creamy, almost a liquorice flavour, slight caramel. The bitterness does detract a lot, I hope this all melds together, and the bitterness fades a bit. I think a bit of acidic flavour from carbonation might balance out the bitterness. I'm trying to bear in mind that it's sitting at 20C, and there are probably some flavours in it that wouldn't come through if it were served at 10-15C.

Does anyone else have a taste at this point? (Obviously only a sip, from the gravity test). Am I getting normal flavours for this amount of time in the fermenter, or should I be worried about the overly bitter flavours?

Cheers,
Craig

garwatts

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by garwatts » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:39 pm

craigmarshall wrote:
Does anyone else have a taste at this point? (Obviously only a sip, from the gravity test). Am I getting normal flavours for this amount of time in the fermenter, or should I be worried about the overly bitter flavours?

Cheers,
Craig
I Taste it every chance I get :D Looks a good brew and nics pics =D>

Invalid Stout

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by Invalid Stout » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:05 pm

craigmarshall wrote:
Invalid Stout wrote:Looks fantastic, I need to get on and start building my mango chutney bolier too :)
It's a shame you're so far away, I bought two and only really needed one, it was very little for the extra one. I'm on the border of Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire if anyone else needs a lidless but clean 35l cylindrical mango chutney container - just come and pick it up..
Oh, I have the chutney drum, I just haven't fitted the plumbing to it yet.

Couldn't you use the second one as an HLT? Or give it to someone to get them into brewing?

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:17 pm

Invalid Stout wrote:Oh, I have the chutney drum, I just haven't fitted the plumbing to it yet.

Couldn't you use the second one as an HLT? Or give it to someone to get them into brewing?
Yes - I was trying to give it away then!

I don't think I'll need an HLT, I did okay running off my mash into a fermenter then adding more water from the boiler, running off again into the fermenter, then sticking it all into the boiler in one go at the end. I know I could overlap these things and get the boiler started a few minutes earlier, but I'm not that desperate to shave time off my brew day :)

I'll put a post in the equipment or for sale section offering it away to someone local for free - it'll probably get seen by more people that way.

Cheers,
Craig

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:12 pm

Okay here it is after 9 days in the fermenter. I shall probably transfer it off the trub tonight or tomorrow into a couple of 15l fermenters (less chance of getting rubbish in the bottle), and then bottle it a day or so later.

This is clearer than any other beer I've made and the longest I've kept any other is 3 weeks and 6 days in the bottle. I think both the clearer wort from the mash tun (rather than using a grain-bag) and the irish moss are responsible for the great clarity:
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It still smells amazing, the flavour has mellowed since last tasting, it's noticably less sweet, and the harsh bitterness has dulled a lot, although it is still slightly too bitter for my taste. Put it this way - I now don't mind finishing the sample, rather than chucking it down the sink (last time). The flavour is quite malty - Meg says honeycomb, vanilla and butterscotch (is this diacetyl?).

The gravity is now 1.014, down from 1.054, this is quite respectable I reckon. I now have about 20.5 litres of this stuff, and it's due to be about 5.2%. Slightly higher than planned - oh well.

Cheers,
Craig

subsub

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by subsub » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:40 pm

Well done Craig, super clear wort is always a bonus :D

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:14 pm

It's been 9 days since this beer was brewed, so I've racked it out of the 25l fermenter (through a sanitised fine nylon mesh straining bag from the local homebrew shop - to stop any trub and bits going through the auto-syphon). It's now in two 15l fermenters, ready for bottling tomorrow or soon after. I'll try include some pics of bottling when it happens. I've never done 40 separate bottles before :shock: - not looking forward to it. Still I've started using iodophor in a spray bottle now, which makes things easier.

Cheers,
Craig

craigmarshall

Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by craigmarshall » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:48 pm

It tastes delicious, I would be more than happy to pay £2.odd at a pub for this. I know I'm drinking it green (only a couple of weeks in the bottle), but it's that good already!

It's stronger than I planned, but it doesn't seem like it, which is odd and dangerous - I end up drinking more than I wanted to!

I don't know what I was doing wrong with my first two Brew-In-A-Bag batches, as others have had great success with them, but for me, the mash tun and separate boiler and loose hops etc. have all done the trick. Any future batches will be done with the new kit I've made, and at the 5 gallon brewlength, it's slightly more work, but more than worth it, I reckon.

Cheers,
Craig

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Re: 3rd AG - Amber Lightning

Post by simple one » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:12 am

That was just like the light bulb moment when I got my kit all sorted.

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