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Re: Outrageous IPA

Post by delboy » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:25 pm

jubby wrote:
delboy wrote:
mysterio wrote:I think the taste threshold is around 80 -
I was hoping this was the case. I would imagine though that if I were to add hops later in the boil instead of the whole boil, the flavour/aroma would not last as long.
I've done some beers that were late hopping only ie large amounts of hops added at 15-20 mins and nothing else. From my experience the flavour is pretty much locked in there until the end of the keg.

Anyway hope the brew is a good one jubby.

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Re: Outrageous IPA

Post by jubby » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:05 pm

I've done some beers that were late hopping only ie large amounts of hops added at 15-20 mins and nothing else. From my experience the flavour is pretty much locked in there until the end of the keg.

Anyway hope the brew is a good one jubby.
Thanks delboy. I have brewed a couple of beers with this hop schedule also and they always turn out well, but I have to say, they never make it to 12 months :wink: My Evil Twin uses all late hops and I am itching to get at it as it tastes blummin good, but it's not fully conditioned yet. Needless to say, this one won't get any where near 12 months old either.
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Re: Outrageous IPA

Post by jubby » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:33 pm

pdtnc wrote:I'd ordered the Durden Park book a couple of weeks back, lost in the post though it seems! Think they are going to replace what hasn't arrived anyway.

Hope it turns out well, its something I want to try myself :)
Thanks. If you like high ABV beers with sh*tloads of hops, then you won't be disappointed. It's a great book, but not the sort of beer i would brew regularly.
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Re: Outrageous IPA

Post by WishboneBrewery » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:06 pm

definitely something I was thinking of brewing and trying to forget about :)

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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jubby » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:56 pm

Bit of a cock-up with the addition of photo's. I edited them in rather than adding them in a new post, so the replies look a bit strange as they were put there before the photo's. Never mind :bonk
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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:41 pm

The banked up hops around the cooler are a bit mad, I noticed I get that with normal amounts of hops.
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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jubby » Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:46 pm

A few more photo's for the record.

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Final gravity, 1.016. spot on according to beer alchemy. Been fairly lucky with all of the brew stats.

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80g EKG dry hop.

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Transferring into the secondary with the EKG.

Tasted a sample which was fairly tasteless with little aroma. It was very smooth with a mild floral taste and a powerful bitterness, but no where near as bitter as I was expecting.

A few more photo's to follow in a couple of weeks when it is finally transferred into the corny. ( Photo's are a bit big, forgot to re-size them :oops: )
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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by floydmeddler » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:23 pm

jubby wrote:A few more photo's for the record.

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Transferring into the secondary with the EKG.

Tasted a sample which was fairly tasteless with little aroma. It was very smooth with a mild floral taste and a powerful bitterness, but no where near as bitter as I was expecting.

A few more photo's to follow in a couple of weeks when it is finally transferred into the corny. ( Photo's are a bit big, forgot to re-size them :oops: )
Hi Jubby. Do you use a plastic fermenter for secondary? If so, have you ever had any taste issues?

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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jubby » Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:11 pm

floydmeddler wrote:
Hi Jubby. Do you use a plastic fermenter for secondary? If so, have you ever had any taste issues?
fm, I rarely use a secondary, but when I do, it's always the plastic one in the photo. I have never had any taste issues though.
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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jonnyhop » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:01 pm

Looks a fine brew, hope it tastes good. I have been thinking about making something similar, having read the Homebrew classic IPA. The 12 months keeping it seems the accepted view (or as near as you can hold out) but I only have 1 corny. Since its something special I don’t mind bottling it - I have been saving up stubbies (330ml) as I thinking anything over 6.5% is a sipping beer. As the corny normally loses some of the hop taste what do people think about using little bottles for this or a similar recipe?

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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jubby » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:55 am

Looks a fine brew, hope it tastes good.
Thanks.
As the corny normally loses some of the hop taste what do people think about using little bottles for this or a similar recipe?
I will be bottling a few litres, but with minimal priming sugar as some secondary fermentation will take place in the bottle. I know this is the case with most bottled beers, but the recipe book i have says "bottling high gravity old ales should be done with care. use good quality thick glass bottles, preferably of a type that will allow you to release some pressure, ie swing top or screw top". I will be using crown capped bottles which goes against this advice, but I am keeping the beer in a secondary fermenter for two weeks, so hopefully there won't be much fermenting in the bottle. I will also put each bottle in a plastic bag and store in a box out of sight, partly because of the explosion risk, but mainly to remove tempation :lol:

As for the loss of hop taste/aroma in a corny, my experience is that it is possible to keep that aroma and taste by adding the majority of hops late (I think delboy also mentioned this earlier in the thread). For standard beers I find they do lose it a few weeks after conditioning though. I was hoping that with over 1/2 kilo of hops, the taste will still be there after 12 months. I will have to wait and see. Pete Brown publishes poems and tasting notes from the colonies in east India describing this type of beer to be light in colour, refreshing and aromatic (I can't remember the exact words and i have loaned the book to a friend so i can't check)

Anyway, I will be able to let you know in 12 months..........or maybe 10 :D
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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by Tequilla6 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:17 am

I must have been sleeping when you discussed this as I cannot remember any conversation about it, Maybe I was happily enjoying the the Evil Twin taster at the time.. :beer:

Must admit the Durden Park website looks interesting and as you seem to be pushing the recipes I have just gone a purchased the book for a good read. Good luck with the IPA I will have to convince you to bottle and put aside one for me so I can evaluate it on one of my return visits to the UK.

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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by oblivious » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:29 am

That a great brew day :D

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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jubby » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:30 am

Maybe I was happily enjoying the the Evil Twin taster at the time
Thanks,It's fully ready now, so I will save some for our next meeting.

I will keep a bottle of the IPA aside for you. You are going to need it after drinking that poop they serve up where you're off to :!:
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Re: Outrageous IPA + photo's

Post by jubby » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:36 am

oblivious wrote:That a great brew day :D
Ta.
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