It is a good 'un. Hope yours turns out well.floydmeddler wrote:(snip) ... The inspiration for the the Red IPAs that I have brewed have all come from Dark Star's Carafa Jade. Fantastic beer.
Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Cheers man. Can't wait to get stuck in.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
What sort of final water profile do you tend to go for when you make hop forward beers like this floyd? I'm starting to feel like my beers aren't nearly as flavoursome as they shoud be so trying to glean some info from people making good strong hop flavoured brews to help me adapt my process.
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Drinking - Youngs AAA Kit; Leatherwood Traditional Mead, Cyser, Ginger Metheglyn.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
I tend to go for the 'bitter' profile on Graham's calculator. To be honest, I'm not that clued up on water... I keep promising myself I'll sit down some day and try to understand it all...
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
3 weeks in and I've had 2 pints of this... It's a belter! It is still pretty young though so I've promised myself I'll keep my mits off it for another week.
Man, I love Red IPAs!
Man, I love Red IPAs!
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Cheers mate. The more I 'learn' about water, the more I think I'm unnecessarily overcomplicating matters!
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Fermenting -
Conditioning - Meads - Raspberry Melomel yeast test, Vanilla Cinnamon Metheglyn, Orange Melomel.
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Planning - Some kits until I can get back to AG, then a hoppy porter, Jim's ESB, some American Red.
Fermenting -
Conditioning - Meads - Raspberry Melomel yeast test, Vanilla Cinnamon Metheglyn, Orange Melomel.
Drinking - Youngs AAA Kit; Leatherwood Traditional Mead, Cyser, Ginger Metheglyn.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Mash pH around 5.2-5.3 and a sulphate/chloride ratio around 3:1 will get you there.Cpt.Frederickson wrote:What sort of final water profile do you tend to go for when you make hop forward beers like this floyd? I'm starting to feel like my beers aren't nearly as flavoursome as they shoud be so trying to glean some info from people making good strong hop flavoured brews to help me adapt my process.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
I blame Bru n Water for all this doubt 
I'm gonna try his Pale Ale profile on there for brewing an American Amber and see what happens.

I'm gonna try his Pale Ale profile on there for brewing an American Amber and see what happens.
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Fermenting -
Conditioning - Meads - Raspberry Melomel yeast test, Vanilla Cinnamon Metheglyn, Orange Melomel.
Drinking - Youngs AAA Kit; Leatherwood Traditional Mead, Cyser, Ginger Metheglyn.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
You could do worse, my Ghostship clone was a lovely drop using it.Cpt.Frederickson wrote:I blame Bru n Water for all this doubt
I'm gonna try his Pale Ale profile on there for brewing an American Amber and see what happens.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Having another pint... can't resist. Jeeze... those Apollo hops are something else. Massive blackberry notes.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Apollo is a great hop, my best selling beer bar none is an IPA (albeit, i'm told a tad darker than the style dictates as i use a whack of Amber malt and Special B in there BUT Sam Calagione from Dogfish head recently told me he likes it a lot - we did a beer swap) bittered to 96IBU with Apollo and Columbus, then Apollo at 20 mins, 10mins, Flame Out and dry hop. I can't get hold of enough hops to keep brewing the demanded beer. I've heard people saying Apollo is just onions.... I've never had onions yet from it. I've come close a couple of times with cascade giving some onion notes when young in the bottle, but not Apollo.
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Sam Calagione? He's the man! Loved his Discovery series and have his book, Brewing up a Business.
Man, Apollo is the bomb. I get serious blackcurrant and pine personally. Weird combo, but that's what I taste and I fecking love it!
Man, Apollo is the bomb. I get serious blackcurrant and pine personally. Weird combo, but that's what I taste and I fecking love it!
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Kick-ass recipe there, floyd, thanks for sharing!
To my palate, Chinook and Apollo are almost interchangeable, but it makes perfect sense to me that either would pair perfectly with Columbus. I've even heard that Russian River Blind Pig IPA uses whichever is more readily available for their 60 min addition. I hear you guys raving about Apollo, but no mention of Chinook. I'm curious, what do you guys think?
To my palate, Chinook and Apollo are almost interchangeable, but it makes perfect sense to me that either would pair perfectly with Columbus. I've even heard that Russian River Blind Pig IPA uses whichever is more readily available for their 60 min addition. I hear you guys raving about Apollo, but no mention of Chinook. I'm curious, what do you guys think?
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Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
I've not used Apollo but love Chinook, for me the grapefruit thing is the thing I love about it. I've only used it for mainly bittering but have still got flavour from it, one powerful hop. Not sure I've got the balls for a single ho brew but would love to taste one, any beers out there that do?seymour wrote:Kick-ass recipe there, floyd, thanks for sharing!
To my palate, Chinook and Apollo are almost interchangeable, but it makes perfect sense to me that either would pair perfectly with Columbus. I've even heard that Russian River Blind Pig IPA uses whichever is more readily available for their 60 min addition. I hear you guys raving about Apollo, but no mention of Chinook. I'm curious, what do you guys think?
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Fermenting:
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Fermenting:
Conditioning:
Drinking: Southwold Again,
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Planning: Winter drinking Beer
Re: Late Hop Red I.P.A - Columbus, Apollo and Amarillo
Here's some:
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mikkeller- ... pa/116154/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/68/83941
http://weirdbeardbrewing.blogspot.co.uk ... inook.html
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/arbor-sing ... ok/185715/
http://brooklynbrewshop.com/directions/ ... ctions.pdf (mash kit instructions)
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mikkeller- ... pa/116154/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/68/83941
http://weirdbeardbrewing.blogspot.co.uk ... inook.html
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/arbor-sing ... ok/185715/
http://brooklynbrewshop.com/directions/ ... ctions.pdf (mash kit instructions)