Making another British IPA

[Clibit]

I have 100g that I haven't got around to using yet. Was going to use it in a hefe but changed my mind - I reckon it might overpower the yeast flavours....

Yes I can't imagine it in a hefe. Maybe someone more experienced than me can suggest a Riwaka recipe. Ive really enjoyed it in commercial brews, which have all been pales and IPAs. It doesn't need a heavy hand, its heavy enough without.

[Tony1951]

What do you think of Ahtanum Clibit?

I have put my name down for KILO of that from the bulk hop buy thread on here. I'm wondering if I am mad to do that.... I love centennial and citra. Neither of them are available on the bulk buy. What do you reckon?

[Clibit]

What do you think of Ahtanum Clibit?

I have put my name down for KILO of that from the bulk hop buy thread on here. I'm wondering if I am mad to do that.... I love centennial and citra. Neither of them are available on the bulk buy. What do you reckon?

Never used it Tony! It's not one of the more aggressive US hops apparently. I've had beers with it in, but not a single hop. Like a mellow Cascade, I've heard.

PS Another idea for your IPA would be to do a hybrid US/ English hop IPA. I'm doing this hop mix a lot now.

[ManseMasher]

http://ychhops.com/varieties

Have a look at this mate.

[Tony1951]

Thanks Mans and Clibit for replies. I looked at that site and compared the hops Mans - interesting.

Had the eldest lad up with his father in law who is visiting his new grandson from the far south... We had five litres of my 5.7% t 5.8% APA and IPA and some peas pudding and home cooked ham sandwiches to clear the palate .....

EDIT: Must've been half cut there. That should have read 5.7 to 7.8% APA / IPA. The APA was 5.7. The IPA was 7.8%.

They claim that the 27th December APA wins hands down. It was quite nice I'd have to say. It was a random adaptation caused by a dearth of citra discovered while I was actually brewing and I had to add some Cascade to cover for the lack of citra when I was adding the late additions. Here is the recipe:

23 litre brew

6Kg Weyyermann's Pale Ale
150 grammes of crystal malt

32 grm Magnum @ 60 mins
15grm citra @ 10 mins
15grm centennial @ 10 mins
22 grm Citra @ 0 mins Added at 80C and steeped at 80c for 30 mins
25 grm Cscade @ 0 mins Added at 80C and steeped at 80c for 30 mins
45 grm Centennial @ 0 mins Added at 80C and steeped at 80c for 30 mins

Weirdly - the entire kettle was emptied into the FV and fermented with US05 for two weeks. This included all kettle trub and hops. Strange but true. Try it and see the results. I'm calling this Desperate Dan APA.

[GarethHW]

I'm a person who eats grapefruit without sugar.

You animal!

I'm excited about using riwaka though. Wasn't planning on brewing more til sept but think I might have to squeeze in a riwaka/sorachi ace pale before summer. Might replace it in next seasons schedule with your two hearted centennial (can't remember what you called it).

[Clibit]

Half-Hearted. It's a scaled down version of Bells Two Hearted.

[stevej383]

What do you think of Ahtanum Clibit?

I have put my name down for KILO of that from the bulk hop buy thread on here. I'm wondering if I am mad to do that.... I love centennial and citra. Neither of them are available on the bulk buy. What do you reckon?

I have some spare Ahtanun Tony if you want 100g

[Clibit]

Another good article about English IPA...

https://byo.com/mead/item/2148-english- ... m-the-pros

[Tony1951]

Another good article about English IPA...

https://byo.com/mead/item/2148-english- ... m-the-pros

Good article. Thanks.

[Tony1951]

What do you think of Ahtanum Clibit?

I have put my name down for KILO of that from the bulk hop buy thread on here. I'm wondering if I am mad to do that.... I love centennial and citra. Neither of them are available on the bulk buy. What do you reckon?

I have some spare Ahtanun Tony if you want 100g

That's a very kind offer Steve, but you'll have to let me pay for them and the postage. It would certainly be a good idea to test to see if I like the flavour before I buy a kilo.

[stevej383]

Pm me your details Tony and dont worry about the money there just sitting there going to waste

[stevej383]

Just mashing my grains for another batch of my English IPA.

Since I started mashing without the grain bag I have been getting much more efficiency and the beers have been perhaps a bit too strong, ending up in the bottle at about 7.8% ABV. My typical grain bill was 6kg of Weyermanns Pale Ale, 150 Grammes of Crystal, mashed in 15 litres and then sparged with another 18 litres in two stages. Forst sparge was 10 litres at 75C and second was 7 litres at 75C. I stir the grains in the naked boiler when adding the sparge waters and then let them settle. 20 minutes for the first sparge and about 10 minutes for the second. This has been giving me about 27 litres of wort. After the boil I have been recovering about 23 litres of wort at OG of 1066. I've hit this figure the last four brews so I must be doing something consistent at last.

This time, I have reduced the Pale Ale malt by 1kg so I'm mashing 5KG right now plus the little 150gm Crystal addition. I'm thinking the IPA ought to come out a bit North of 6% which is probably plenty for me and my fellow home brew drinkers.

My Hop Schedule will be as follows:

22gm Magnum @60
37 gm EKG pellets @10
40 gm EKG pellets after turn off when the wort has been cooled to 80C. There will be a half hour steep before the cooler is turned back on to cool to 20C.

I have pmd you Tony

[Tony1951]

I have pmd you Tony

Thanks Steve I've re-sent the address and thanks again for this. I will certainly reciprocate somehow since you won't let me pay your costs. You're a gent mate.

I'll have to send you some beer made with it if it turns out alright.

[Tony1951]

With your American IPA recipe, consider some other hop pairings. Citra and Amarillo is great. So is Centennial and Amarillo. Simcoe, a piney hop, is another I use regularly, and Mosaic has broken into my inner hop circle. I love Columbus, but it's quite a dank herby hop. I think Mosaic and Amarillo are ones you would be likely to enjoy in combination with Citra and Centennial. They are both fruity and really delicious. Small test batches perhaps?

I've got some unopened Amarillo Clibit. I've had it a while and I should use it else it will go off. I'm not sure how long I have had it. It is unopened in its vacuum pack though so it is probably OK.

On these strong IPAs ..... As you know I'm always saying I never drink more than a litre of that stuff.....An old mate came around for a 'beer tasting' last Wednesday afternoon. Unfortunately we drank 11, 500ml bottles of 7.8% ABV IPA between us. I didn't wake up for sixteen hours..... Swimbo greeted me next day with the line, 'I gave your dinner to the dog last night. You should know better at your age. You were mumbling absolute rubbish when I tried to wake you up.'

I am now punishing myself for stupidity with a week off. It was going to be a month off, but that may be over the top. I will NEVER do that again. Surprisingly I felt oK, but I didn't drive that day.