Shelobs Sting

[Martin the fish]

I managed to get a brew done today
I thought i'd try to brew a strong ale. I think i done ok.

RECIPE-Shelobs Sting. From the Middle Earth Brewery

6266g MO
501g Crystal
150g Malted Wheat
36g Choc
2 hr mash at 68C.

Hops boil 90 mins.
16g Sticklebract. 11.2%
13g green Bullet. 13.2%
18g Green Bullet Last 15 mins
12g NZ Goldings. 3.7% Last 15 mins
40g Green bullet. Steep.
1 tsp Irish Moss.
Thames valley & S04 Yeasts.

I done a very slow sparge-90 mins. Collected 31ltr's 1058-pre boil. After boil i had 23.5 ltr of 1068
I pitched my Thames liquid and a sachet of S04 was sprinkled on top too.

If this gets down to 1010 region it will be 7.4%

It smells good and tastes great. Hope it ferments well. This is a bit of an experiment before i try a durden park original IPA.

[tomU]

After boil i had 23.5 ltr of 1068 Cool
I pitched my Thames liquid and a sachet of S04 was sprinkled on top too.

If this gets down to 1010 region it will be 7.4%

how does a 1068 grav get 7.4%? I thought the max abv of say a 1068 would be 6.8%? I'm sure I'm wrong though!

Nice looking brew anyway - love the name!

[stevezx7r]

Yikes, that's a strong un! BTW, I get 7.6abv according to beersmith.

I think I'll make something like this.

[retourrbx]

what English hops would you liken the NZ hops to M?

[MightyMouth]

Yikes, that's a strong un! BTW, I get 7.6abv according to beersmith.

I think I'll make something like this.

Hmm Beer Smith gives me 6.78abv est assuming 1.070OG and 1.018FG

[TAXMACKEM]

I get 7.67 using promash using 1068 and 1010

[MightyMouth]

I get 7.67 using promash using 1068 and 1010

Yea but you won't get to 1.010 with that recipe I don't think, the predicted FG is 1.018

[ECR]

Glad it went well, MTF

[Martin the fish]

what English hops would you liken the NZ hops to M?

Not really sure-haven't had enough experience with hops to be able to tell. To me the NZ hops are a bit more citrusy and easier to get.

Regardless of what FG it finishes at it's gonna be quite strong.

The airlock is bubbling away merrily this morning.

[anomalous_result]

Not to hijack the thread but what equations are all these different programs using to calculate abv? And where did 1070 come from?

I use (OG - FG)*133/FG which is a simplification of the sums found here.

[MightyMouth]

Not to hijack the thread but what equations are all these different programs using to calculate abv? And where did 1070 come from?

I use (OG - FG)*133/FG which is a simplification of the sums found here.

The 1070 comes from the predicted OG using an efficency of 75%. I know the measured was 1068 but using that figure you only get 6.53 abv as the beer is still unlikely to attenuate much below 1018. If you change the brewhouse efficency to 73% which then gives a Predicted OG of 1068 the Prediced FG goes to 1017 and the prediced ABV is then around 6.6%

[Martin the fish]

I just predicted that IF it got down to 1010 i would have a nice strong beer. Either way 6.6 ABV is strong to me and it's just a trial for doing a DP recipe and brew method.
How can you tell what FG without knowing the yeast strain anyway? As some attenuate better than others? I'd love to know how to use beersmith-just downloaded it today. I've another post on that subject

[Martin the fish]

After boil i had 23.5 ltr of 1068 Cool
I pitched my Thames liquid and a sachet of S04 was sprinkled on top too.

If this gets down to 1010 region it will be 7.4%

how does a 1068 grav get 7.4%? I thought the max abv of say a 1068 would be 6.8%? I'm sure I'm wrong though!

Nice looking brew anyway - love the name!

I work it out by OG-FG multiply by 0.129 therefore
1068 - 1010=58 multiplied by 0.129=7.4% ABV

But i was guessing at FG. I don't suppose it will get down there. I'm happy enough anyway as it's gonna taste great!

[anomalous_result]

The 1070 comes from the predicted OG using an efficency of 75%

Ahhh ok. Using my maths with your numbers I come out similarly to Beersmith.

How can you tell what FG without knowing the yeast strain anyway? As some attenuate better than others?

You mentioned s04 in your post.

[MightyMouth]

I just predicted that IF it got down to 1010 i would have a nice strong beer. Either way 6.6 ABV is strong to me and it's just a trial for doing a DP recipe and brew method.
How can you tell what FG without knowing the yeast strain anyway? As some attenuate better than others? I'd love to know how to use beersmith-just downloaded it today. I've another post on that subject

I just used Beersmith and it works it out based on the recipe.

Recipe: Shelobs Sting
Brewer: Martin the fish
Asst Brewer:
Style: English IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.50 L
Boil Size: 31.02 L
Estimated OG: 1.068 SG
Estimated Color: 20.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 45.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 73.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.27 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 90.09 %
0.50 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (39.4 EBC) Grain 7.18 %
0.15 kg Wheat Malt, Bel (3.9 EBC) Grain 2.16 %
0.04 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 0.57 %
16.00 gm Sticklebract [11.20 %] (60 min) Hops 16.7 IBU
13.00 gm Green Bullet [13.20 %] (60 min) Hops 16.0 IBU
28.30 gm Green Bullet [13.20 %] (15 min) (Aroma HoHops -
12.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [3.70 %] (15 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
18.00 gm Green Bullet [13.20 %] (15 min) Hops 11.0 IBU
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs Thames Valley Ale (Wyeast Labs #1275) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: My Mash
Total Grain Weight: 6.96 kg