AG #5 23.09.08: Tumbleabout Strong Bitter'ish (with pics)

Grahame · Post by **Grahame** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:02 am

Going to have a bash at the following tomorrow, based on des's recipe:

90min mash at 65C and 90min boil...

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4000.00 gm AA - Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 87.32 %
387.00 gm AA - Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 8.45 %
194.00 gm AA - Wheat Malt, Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 4.23 %
80.00 gm Fuggles [4.00 %] (90 min) Hops 35.6 IBU
14.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.60 %] (15 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.60 %] (0 min) Hops (80 min steep)

I am hoping to achieve something a bit more "in your face" than my previous attempts which have probably been too subtle. Hopefully all the hops here will make for a good brew!

Off to bed now and will post my progress throughout the day.

G.

fivetide · Post by **fivetide** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:55 am

Morning Grahame.

If by 'in-your-face' you also mean hoppier, perhaps you could afford to add more Goldings at flameout even?

Looks tasty though - I'd order a pint

adm · Post by **adm** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:08 am

I'd add another kilo of Maris if it were me (and it's a 23l brew length).....more towards a nice strong in yer face IPA.

If you went 5Kg MO, 0.5Kg Crystal, 0.25Kg wheat Malt, then BeerAlchemy says it checks all the boxes for an English IPA.

If you want it even hoppier, upping the Fuggles to 100G at the start of the boil should give you around 50IBU. It certainly shouldn't taste middle of the road.....but might take a few weeks to condition properly.

(Note to self: not everybody likes IPAs.....)

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:15 am

Have a good one Grahame

oblivious · Post by **oblivious** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:59 am

Nice one Grahame, what about some dry hopping as well?

Grahame · Post by **Grahame** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:09 am

Thanks for the advice guys,

I wanted to do an exact clone of the recipe but unfortunately I only had exactly 4Kg of MO left so I had to scale it down accordingly. I also only had 80g of Fuggles exactly left

I like the idea of adding more goldings at flameout, again I just got the 7g by scaling the recipe to what I have. would upping it to 15g be good?!

Anyway, I have some pics of my progress so far... (all my brewday pics look the same, but I know everyone loves brewporn so ah well!)

Grain bill:

Extreme closeup... whhoooooaahhhh

hops all weighed (should I up the flameout goldings to around 15g????)

the mash (had to add an extra 1.5L of boiling water to get it up to 64C, as close as I could get to the 65C)

pH bang on

All wrapped up at 64C

I will post more pics later. Will try and make them different than every other brew thread I have posted too

G.

fivetide · Post by **fivetide** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:19 am

would upping it to 15g be good?!

Yeah, why not. I would. But then adding aroma hops is one of my favourite bits. Certainly wouldn't hurt, and 7g isn't very much.

Grahame · Post by **Grahame** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:21 am

fivetide wrote:
would upping it to 15g be good?!
Yeah, why not. I would. But then adding aroma hops is one of my favourite bits. Certainly wouldn't hurt, and 7g isn't very much.

Thanks mate, will do!

G.

Grahame · Post by **Grahame** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:02 pm

Nearing the end of the boil now. Batch sparge took me nearly 2 hours due to 2 damn stuck mashes - they plague me! Also had a boil over as always when I brew 23L - the things we endure eh

Anyway, piccies till now:

fivetide · Post by **fivetide** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:04 pm

Hahaha! That picture of the hops floating on top of the boiler is superb!

Bloody well done - hoorah!

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:40 pm

That's one full boiler

delboy · Post by **delboy** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:56 pm

Grahame wrote:Nearing the end of the boil now. Batch sparge took me nearly 2 hours due to 2 damn stuck mashes - they plague me!

Where are you getting your crushed grain from, its likely to be the cause of the problem.

Grahame · Post by **Grahame** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:19 pm

I got all my MO from Hop & Grape. I am moving to Scotland next week so when I get settled in I will buy my next lot from barleybottom and see if it improves things.

All done and tidied up now,was longer than my last 2 brewdays due to my stuck sparges but all in all it went well. The run off from the boiler to the FV was crystal clear (see pic below) which is a first for me so I am excited. It tasted bloody lovely too! Managed to hit my target of 1.041 spot on. I seemed to have levelled out at 70% efficiency which will do nicely.

Anyway, the rest of the pics:

Second hop addition & Protafloc:

Goldings in to steep for 30 mins, mmmmmm:

Cooling nicely:

Loads of foam, I had to remove a lot too:

Trub:

Crystal clear 1.041 wort:

Had fun today overall, really hope this one knocks my socks off!

G.

fivetide · Post by **fivetide** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:46 pm

See that, out of the window, the spent mash tun constructed painstakingly out of a picnic cooler next to the washing line, that says something about life that does. I'm not sure what, mind you.

This is sure to be a goody - nice sample.

Grahame · Post by **Grahame** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:51 pm

fivetide wrote:See that, out of the window, the spent mash tun constructed painstakingly out of a picnic cooler next to the washing line, that says something about life that does. I'm not sure what, mind you.

This is sure to be a goody - nice sample.

Maybe if I blow it up, print it, and splatter it with a few dollops of paint here and there, I could make a fortune from it

Really appreciated your help fivetide, don't know where I would be without all you guys on here. I am planning to bottle some of this one, so I could send you one for an opinion in due course.

G.

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AG #5 23.09.08: Tumbleabout Strong Bitter'ish (with pics)

AG #5 23.09.08: Tumbleabout Strong Bitter'ish (with pics)