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AG #5 23.09.08: Tumbleabout Strong Bitter'ish (with pics)
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:02 am
by Grahame
Going to have a bash at the following tomorrow, based on des's recipe:
90min mash at 65C and 90min boil...
Amount Item Type % or IBU
4000.00 gm AA - Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 87.32 %
387.00 gm AA - Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 8.45 %
194.00 gm AA - Wheat Malt, Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 4.23 %
80.00 gm Fuggles [4.00 %] (90 min) Hops 35.6 IBU
14.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.60 %] (15 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.60 %] (0 min) Hops (80 min steep)
I am hoping to achieve something a bit more "in your face" than my previous attempts which have probably been too subtle. Hopefully all the hops here will make for a good brew!
Off to bed now and will post my progress throughout the day.
G.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:55 am
by fivetide
Morning Grahame.
If by 'in-your-face' you also mean hoppier, perhaps you could afford to add more Goldings at flameout even?
Looks tasty though - I'd order a pint

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:08 am
by adm
I'd add another kilo of Maris if it were me (and it's a 23l brew length).....more towards a nice strong in yer face IPA.
If you went 5Kg MO, 0.5Kg Crystal, 0.25Kg wheat Malt, then BeerAlchemy says it checks all the boxes for an English IPA.
If you want it even hoppier, upping the Fuggles to 100G at the start of the boil should give you around 50IBU. It certainly shouldn't taste middle of the road.....but might take a few weeks to condition properly.
(Note to self: not everybody likes IPAs.....)
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:15 am
by Matt
Have a good one Grahame

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:59 am
by oblivious
Nice one Grahame, what about some dry hopping as well?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:09 am
by Grahame
Thanks for the advice guys,
I wanted to do an exact clone of the recipe but unfortunately I only had exactly 4Kg of MO left so I had to scale it down accordingly. I also only had 80g of Fuggles exactly left
I like the idea of adding more goldings at flameout, again I just got the 7g by scaling the recipe to what I have. would upping it to 15g be good?!
Anyway, I have some pics of my progress so far... (all my brewday pics look the same, but I know everyone loves brewporn so ah well!)
Grain bill:
Extreme closeup... whhoooooaahhhh
hops all weighed (should I up the flameout goldings to around 15g????)
the mash (had to add an extra 1.5L of boiling water to get it up to 64C, as close as I could get to the 65C)
pH bang on
All wrapped up at 64C
I will post more pics later. Will try and make them different than every other brew thread I have posted too
G.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:19 am
by fivetide
would upping it to 15g be good?!
Yeah, why not. I would. But then adding aroma hops is one of my favourite bits. Certainly wouldn't hurt, and 7g isn't very much.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:21 am
by Grahame
fivetide wrote:would upping it to 15g be good?!
Yeah, why not. I would. But then adding aroma hops is one of my favourite bits. Certainly wouldn't hurt, and 7g isn't very much.
Thanks mate, will do!
G.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:02 pm
by Grahame
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:04 pm
by fivetide
Hahaha! That picture of the hops floating on top of the boiler is superb!
Bloody well done - hoorah!
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:40 pm
by Matt
That's one full boiler

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:56 pm
by delboy
Grahame wrote:Nearing the end of the boil now. Batch sparge took me nearly 2 hours due to 2 damn stuck mashes - they plague me!
Where are you getting your crushed grain from, its likely to be the cause of the problem.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:19 pm
by Grahame
I got all my MO from Hop & Grape. I am moving to Scotland next week so when I get settled in I will buy my next lot from barleybottom and see if it improves things.
All done and tidied up now,was longer than my last 2 brewdays due to my stuck sparges but all in all it went well. The run off from the boiler to the FV was crystal clear (see pic below) which is a first for me so I am excited. It tasted bloody lovely too! Managed to hit my target of 1.041 spot on. I seemed to have levelled out at 70% efficiency which will do nicely.
Anyway, the rest of the pics:
Second hop addition & Protafloc:
Goldings in to steep for 30 mins, mmmmmm:
Cooling nicely:
Loads of foam, I had to remove a lot too:
Trub:
Crystal clear 1.041 wort:
Had fun today overall, really hope this one knocks my socks off!
G.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:46 pm
by fivetide
See that, out of the window, the spent mash tun constructed painstakingly out of a picnic cooler next to the washing line, that says something about life that does. I'm not sure what, mind you.
This is sure to be a goody - nice sample.
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:51 pm
by Grahame
fivetide wrote:See that, out of the window, the spent mash tun constructed painstakingly out of a picnic cooler next to the washing line, that says something about life that does. I'm not sure what, mind you.
This is sure to be a goody - nice sample.
Maybe if I blow it up, print it, and splatter it with a few dollops of paint here and there, I could make a fortune from it
Really appreciated your help fivetide, don't know where I would be without all you guys on here. I am planning to bottle some of this one, so I could send you one for an opinion in due course.
G.