Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

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Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by pantsmachine » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:38 pm

Decided to have another crack at my IRS as i was not too happy with the brewday itself first time round. Enjoyed the day but my efficency was through the floor and grain and hop bill were through the roof so i decided to tweak the recipe change my sparge routine and try again and YEEHAAHHHHHH i'm happy this time round! So here's the recipe.

Type: All Grain
Date: 14/12/2008
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Brewer: Joe Inglis
Boil Size: 5.72
Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: My ghetto Equipment
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00%

Ingredients
Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.50 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 31.25 %
2.00 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 25.00 %
1.00 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
1.00 kg Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
1.00 kg Pilsner (2 Row) UK (1.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
0.50 kg Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
2.50 oz Martins Lane [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 36.5 IBU
1.00 oz First Gold [7.50 %] (30 min) Hops 15.3 IBU
1 tube WLPoo4 irish ale yeast
2 Pkgs US 05 Yeast-Ale

Est Original Gravity: 1.090 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.090 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.023 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.0?? SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.86 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 8.52 %
Bitterness: 51.7 IBU Calories: 420 cal/pint
Est Color: 67.9 SRM

Now if you are paying attention you'll see a hop in there that's you've not heard of? The reason for this is that a really nice man on this site called Graeme Coates(Coatesg) sent me some wild hops that he picked where he lives. He's not sure what they are i've got no idea whatsoever so a new new hop variety is born(well renamed).

So, without further ado on with the photos!

Ze grains, weighing in at a normal 8kgs
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Grain filter in the bottom of my 23ltr mash tun(oh how i hear the siren song of 50/60ltr tuns)!
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Grain in while waters heating up
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Water going in at 72 deg
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First part of mash took around 3 hours, i drained the bed into another big pan and then reheated the remaining water to 72 degrees, filled tun up
and left overnight and finally drained with a very small sparge this morning, anyway a photo of a part of the run off.
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Quick shot of the liquid yeast and wort, total non event as you will see later
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2 of 40G bags of hops from Graeme
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On the boil
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Hops in and a fantastic smell, both bags.
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The reason for the name
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Quick hydr reading post boil, finished at 1090 at 20 deg
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Copper to FV transfer
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My favourite shot out the lot! Its a cracker.
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The remains of the hops and an extra Oz of first gold i threw in
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The WLP004 irish ale yeast in wort after 12 hours
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Pitched the yeast/wort combo anyway, gave it an hour saw nothing so fired in 2 packets of US05. I'll update later on fermentation progress. This ones getting sec fer on oak chips and dryhopped, not sure what would be a good hop aroma to go with the roast & choclate flavours of a beer like this, suggestions appreciated. Biggest difference for me this time around was the brewhouse efficency shot up and spreading the brew process over 2 days makes for a much more relaxed process. This is the second time i have done a looonnnggggg mash and i like it!
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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by Horden Hillbilly » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:04 pm

Well done pantsmachine, shame about the whitelabs yeast though.

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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by tomU » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:41 pm

Personally, I wouldn't dry hop it and just let the malt do the talking.
The starter looks in the picture like it had started working - an hour doesn't seem all that long to give it in the wort - I'd have given in a few more, but I'm sure US05 will do a good job.
Was wondering how you knew the AA content of wild hops - is this just a guess? Also surprised you used them in a beer where you wont have huge character from the hops rather than a paler beer where you would taste them a bit clearer.
Anyway, looks like a good brew - one to save a few bottles of for christmas 2009 I reckon...

pantsmachine

Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by pantsmachine » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:01 pm

Thanks guys,

On the WLP004,It was more than an hour, it had overnight in the starter wort(12 hours) and then 1 hour in the FV(most defo last chance). AA is based on fuggles and yes total guess, same with use in this brew they are for bittering as unknown(but much appreciated) variety. Surprisingly you can get a little bit of hops past the malt in an IRS(its not much but its there). I have never tried dry hopping but based on my last IRS experience dry hopping will be the only way to go if i want to add more of a hop layer to the bittering and mingled malt flavours. Also going to increase carbonation level once this ones bottled. What a hobby! off out for dinner tomorrow night and i've been asked to bring a sample of my beers. They are getting raspberry wheat beer(4.25),dark lady roast barley stout(4) and dark dragon ale(7.75) of malty treacle madness.

Anyway this WLP004 is not the first liquid yest that has given me a worry at the start but it is the first to show almost no activity over 12 hours. I think i'll keep the liquid yeasts for the belgian and german beers and stick with fast dry yeasts for british malt and hop flavoured beer. Truth the yeast no biggy just a pisser i blew a fiver on a dud, i still had a damn good time and yes the air locks 'plibbing' as i type! All you fence sitters, come to the dark side! :twisted:
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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by adm » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:05 pm

Good job Mr. Pants!

That looks lovely....I can almost smell it from here.

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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by Aleman » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:33 pm

Good brewday, nice recipe . . . don't bother with dry hopping its not a characteristic of IRS.

Re Yeast starter, Give it a chance mate :D 12 hours FFS :shock: I normally work on 5-7 days to go from a tube to a pitchable qty . . . if it finishes sooner that allows me to pour off the spent wort and make a Dabbs (Chris's) Flying Starter, on brewday

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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by coatesg » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:56 pm

Ah! Brill! Glad they got there OK! :D I haven't got round to using any of those hops at all yet - they're all (another 160g or so...) sitting in my freezer, but always seem to have another brew to do first - I may get to using them in a pale ale in January...

They aren't bad smelling hops - a little bit of a faint onion smell, but with any luck that will dissipate... :shock: :lol: And, yup - Martin's Lane is the place they were picked :lol: No idea on the AA though - I would have said about 3% as a "wild" guess... though I'll know more once I brew them up.

pantsmachine

Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by pantsmachine » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:41 pm

Cheers Graeme,

I thought they smelled great, didn't get any onion smell but each nose is different and i would not bet on mine being one of the best. I'll send you down a couple of bottles of the finished product in the New Year.

On the 12 hour starter, fair do's maybe 12 hours isn't enough but any other liquid or dry yeast i have used has been up to the top of the pyrex and pressing against the clingfilm in that time shouting 'pitch me pitch me'(well you know what i mean). I have had one liquid that was a slower starter but showed marked signs of activity within that timescale. In saying that i have not used a liquid yeast for a stout so do not know the charactaristics of this strain. Next time i'll give it a bit longer. :oops: Maybe it will work away with the 05 albeit at a slower rate. Anyway, the airlock is plibbing every couple of seconds and i've got that treacley smell from the FV that is so addictive. :D In fact i'm off to slightly chill a bottle of MKI IRS in celebration for this step forward in the art of brewing.

And here it is, Twing!
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God,I've got to back into drinking commercial crap, i see no reason to continue this!

coatesg

Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by coatesg » Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:11 am

Great photo! I peeked into one of my IRS the other night (bad, bad [-X ). Far too young (3-4 weeks in bottle) - it had great flavours though - just lacking on carbonation (got the psst on opening, but almost no head whatsoever - is this normal for an IRS to take a really long time to carbonate? (lets hope I didn't under prime... :oops: ). It had an amazing pour though - it was like engine oil the way it poured!

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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by pantsmachine » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:37 am

I'm not sure, i'd guess it all depends if there was enough sugar and if the yeast was knackered or not, i used spraymalt for priming last time but on this one i will put in 1/2 tsp spraymalt and a 1/4 tsp of sugar, i like the carboanation on the tongue feel. Give it a another while before you try again. I've seen beers i wrote off as dead yeast or whatever with no pop to them and tried again a few months later and voila, top carbonated beer.

Checked this morning and firing twice every second.Looks good smells great.
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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by pantsmachine » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:52 pm

Primary fermentation complete, Transfered onto oak chips this morning in another barrel. Very impressed with the compact yeast layer left behind in the FV, managed to get all the beer off what was a pretty soild yeast layer with very little sediment lifted. I Will leave on the oak chips for another 5 days or so, the barrel is sitting on a heat plate and the whole thing is towel wrapped. Gravitiy reading of 1030 during tranfer to secondary, hopefully the transfer, rousing and heat plate will jump start the yeast for another couple of points.Hoping to get down to 1.028 to prove to myself that rousing and a increase in temp can reawake the yeast for a while. Incredibly dark and bitter at the moment! :D
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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by ChrisG » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:13 pm

Great set of photos!

;)

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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by Damfoose » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:02 am

Fantastic looking brew you have their mate. Hope it tasts as good as it looks when you can finally drink it.

pantsmachine

Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by pantsmachine » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:57 am

Thanks guys,

I had high hopes for the Mk1 version lasting for years but i have given away about 14 of the 26 bottles made, i have drank 5 with my wife made and now have only 7 left! THIS version has to get some long term storage as do at least 4 of the remaining 7.

Amazing how they go but also amazing when people hear about such a thing as IRS and then taste it!

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Re: Dead Czars Imperial Russian Stout MkII Martin's Lane version

Post by Aleman » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:18 pm

pantsmachine wrote:I had high hopes for the Mk1 version lasting for years but i have given away about 14 of the 26 bottles made, i have drank 5 with my wife made and now have only 7 left! THIS version has to get some long term storage as do at least 4 of the remaining 7.

Amazing how they go but also amazing when people hear about such a thing as IRS and then taste it!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: That's why you bottle it in small bottles . . . . #-o #-o

The smallest around at the moment (If you can find them) are 180ml 'nips' which come full of Gold Label Barley wine Yeuch! The next 'best' alternative are the 207ml Butwiper minis :out :out :out :-& :-& I have just managed to work through the last of the 'first' 50 of the 100 I need to bottle my IRS . . . .The sacrifices we make for our beer . . . . I currently have several of the bottles sitting in a plastic crate at 25C that have been 'carbed' to 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.5Vols of CO2 . . . . So far not a single bottle bomb . . . but they will sit there for a couple more moths before I'm happy to use them . . . although I will only be aiming for around 1.5Vols (usually less) for the IRS

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