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Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:16 am
by hotmog
After over 25 years of extract brewing, I finally took the plunge today with my first ever AG brew. :D

In a way, it was all thanks to the fact that Richard Burns who runs Cheers, my local homebrew in Cheam, happened to be on holiday a couple of weeks ago when I called in for my usual supplies with the need for another brew imminent. A lady was looking after the shop for him while he was away, but he hadn't ordered any 15kg tubs of pale malt extract before he went and the last one had been sold a few days earlier. Mild panic set in - what was I to do? I compromised with a Woodfordes Norfolk Nog kit as a stop-gap, but I then began to question my old habits of a lifetime.

My extract brews were OK, but they were all brewed to a standard recipe that I’d been using for years and I rather fancied a change. They were also prone to a noticeable protein haze. A 15kg tub of extract cost almost £70. I would use 2.5kg per brew, plus 500gm glucose, so I would get 6 brews from one tub. However there was limited scope to vary the outcome, and I wanted to try something different for a change. After researching this very informative forum I realised that the cost of grain vs extract was about half, plus there was an almost infinite variety of recipe possibilities .

My mind was made up - AG was now the way forward for me.

Another trip to Cheers, and Richard back from his hols in India set me up with lots of good advice and documentation, plus a new 60 litre boiler, a 25kg sack of Maris Otter pale malt and other ingredients. I’d already made a false bottom for my mash tun made from an old fermenting bin using DAAB’s template, and insulated it.

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This was my recipe, which I’ve called: Catz Whisker:

23 litre batch

Malts: (90 min mash)

4150 gm Maris Otter pale malt
400 gm Crystal malt
75 gm Chocolate malt
150 gm Flaked maize
250 gm Demerara sugar (added to boil)

Hops: (90 min boil)

40 gm Fuggles (4.2%) - 90 min
30 gm Challenger (7.1%) - 90 min
10 gm Styrian Goldings - 15 min

Irish Moss - 15 min

Yeast - Safale 04

EBU = 33.1

On Richard’s advice I went for a less “porridge-like” water/grain ratio of 3:1. The mash tun insulation proved to be exceptionally effective, as the grist temperature remained at 67 deg C throughout the duration of the 90 min mash. The batch sparge calculator specified a 6.7 litre top-up at the end of the mash, but I had to be content with 6.5 litres as the limits of my old 5-gallon FV had been reached as it was by then brimming full right to the rim.

After the second 14.8 litre batch of liquor had sparged through I ended up with around 34 litres of wort in the boiler, which was about 5 over the estimate. By the end of the scheduled 90 minute boil, and with the lid having been left half open to try and maximise the evaporation rate it was still only down to about 30 litres, so I decided to let the boil continue for a further half hour to reduce the volume as much as possible before adding the late hops and Irish Moss.

After cooling I finished with 29 litres of wort, but running this off into the FV took over an hour. I assumed this was because the hop strainer had become blocked (it had never done so before), but eventually discovered that it had become detached from the tap when I had knocked it during stirring, and the tap had then become blocked.

Much, much, later I had a full 23 litre FV. Being the tight-arse that I am, I was loth to waste the remaining 4.5 litres of perfectly good wort that still remained, so drained that into a sterilised bucket and will ferment that separately. The OG came out at 1047, which I think is a pretty reasonable efficiency for a 27.5 litre yield. If I’d not over-done the sparge volume that would have worked out at an OG of 1056 for 23 litres.

Well, it’s been a long, but I have to say, more than usually satisfying day - and it will be the first of many more. :)

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:46 am
by subsub
Congrats of your entry to the darkside. You'll certainly have more interesting brewdays ahead if you stick with it and get used to your kit (it'll help with the over sparging). I couldn't get on with extract, 20 brews and every single one gave me the squits 8-[

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:29 am
by jubby
Nice looking recipe hotmog. Let us know how it turnes out.

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:10 am
by Kristoff
The Catz Whisker looks the Dogz B o l l o x - well done :D

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:23 am
by Redbloke
... nice one Hotmog, I enjoyed reading your brewday. Hope it turns out well :beer:

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:37 am
by mysterio
Congrats, looks like it went well =D>

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:58 am
by Scooby
looks like you have it just about sorted already, good job.

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:39 pm
by Horden Hillbilly
Well done Hotmog, no doubt the 1st of many ag brews. 8)

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:43 pm
by adm
25 years of extract brewing! What took you so long?

Nice work hotmog - welcome to the world of AG!

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:35 am
by hotmog
adm wrote:25 years of extract brewing! What took you so long?

Nice work hotmog - welcome to the world of AG!
Thanks for all your positive comments. I guess I just got into a routine (you might say a rut) and never bothered to change. Plus AG is somewhat more time-intensive, which in the past was not something I had a lot of to spare. However since the kids have now long since grown up, and I have taken early retirement, that is no longer a problem.

What might have developed into an issue is that my wife has also now retired, and she seemed a little put out when she decided she wanted to put the kettle on and make some lunch just as I was in mid-sparge and most of the worktop space in the kitchen was cluttered up with my HLT and mash tun. Seeing the wooden structure in Scooby's post viewtopic.php?f=24&t=21446 gave me inspiration. I could make one of those to fit inside our outside loo (which is rarely used for its intended purpose) and which would make a perfect brewhouse. Fortunately on Monday the weather was fine, so I did the boil outside, but I had been concerned about having to do that in the kitchen when it is raining, because of all the steam and condensation. I think I might have hit on the ideal solution - I feel a short trip to the timber yard in the morning will be in order. :idea: :)

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:35 am
by Tequilla6
That's what I love about this site :D , Lots of DIY projects and pictures on other peoples set-up. I was looking at the same set-up myself and getting so many ideas from other posters as well.

Don't forget to take some photo's to let us know how you got on with the Loo conversion.

Cheers

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:25 pm
by awalker
Well done, heres to many more AGs

Re: Catz Whisker - My first AG brew

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:28 pm
by escapizm
top post and a very interesting read. post like these just make me wanna go AG even sooner...