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Doing this one at the weekend just to use some of my malts up. God knows what it will turn out like but heres hoping.

Batch size: 20 litres.
OG: 1.051.
ABV: 4.8
IBU: 42.7.
EBC: 33.2.

Ingredients:

Maris Otter Pale Malt: 3500g.
Wheat Malt: 214g.
Crystal Malt: 200g.
Aromatic Malt ( to give it the belgian twist): 176g.
Caramalt: 162g.
Chocolate Malt: 116g.

Hops: Styrian Goldings: 50g @ 90 minutes.
Styrian Goldings: 12g @ 15 minutes.

Yeast: Irish Ale WLP004@ 1 litre starter.


Should be at least unusual but i feel that brewing is all about experimenting with different ingredients. will let you all know how it turns out, if in fact it turns out to be drinkable at all.

Any thought and comments most welcome.

CHEERS, PROST, AND RAISE YOUR GLASSES TO WHATEVER YOUVE BREWED IN THIS WONDERFULL WORLD OF ALL GRAIN BREWING. I LOVE BEER, ME.

carpet19 wrote: Should be at least unusual but i feel that brewing is all about experimenting with different ingredients. will let you all know how it turns out, if in fact it turns out to be drinkable at all.

Hi carpet18,
That brew is going to be malty!
Did you brew it & how did it turn out?

I'm with you on home brewing being about experimenting. I don't understand the obsession with doing clones or copies of commercial beers. If you want a pint of X's bitter, go out & buy it - saves a lot of time & effort.
Commercial brewers have different priorities to home brewers (making a profit, or just staying in business these days), but home brewers have complete freedom to make what they like.

Excuse the rant, each to his own I guess.

Good point but I think that beer "style" i.e the recipes that you find on this forum and those found in Wheeler's book for example are good reference points for designing your very own custom ales. Why do you like a particular beer and what's it made from.

I personally do not make copies - I start off clone recipes and then experiment with different raw materials and add different flavours until the right profile is achieved. That's the fun for me!

dcq1974 wrote:Good point but I think that beer "style" i.e the recipes that you find on this forum and those found in Wheeler's book for example are good reference points for designing your very own custom ales. Why do you like a particular beer and what's it made from.

I personally do not make copies - I start off clone recipes and then experiment with different raw materials and add different flavours until the right profile is achieved. That's the fun for me!

Yes, that's similar to how I brew. You've put it a better way than I did. I wasn't suggesting brewing a experimental blonde lager with roasted barley, coz then it wouldn't be a blonde lager, but there's ample scope within each beer style to experiment & find what you like, and even push the boundaries sometimes.
Btw, what's the difference between clone & copy when applied to beer? Or are they used interchangeably?

I'd say "in the style of" !!!! would be the best phrase to use as copy or clone sound like they are the same as the original!

Splitting hairs now!

I have tried a few clone recipes but they are never like the original, so now i just use them as a guide and
vary them until i have something that i like to drink, even though i have experimented with the Fiddlers Elbow
clone quite a lot, really to see if i could get it just like the original, but even after 7 variations of experimentation
its still not like the Wychwood one, but its turned out to be a really nice pint, so the effort of trying to clone one as
worked out paying off, now onto Conistone Bluebird Bitter