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Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:54 pm
by mbt22
After a few extract batches, I've given in and had a shot at all grain brewing. Thanks to Mr Wheeler, whose book is now faintly wort stained. Something similar to Landlord, modified for the hops I could get (Fuggles instead of Styrian Golding) and the AA%. I guess the courteous thing to do would be not to reprint the recipe.

All went well to start with, strike water at 72.6 deg C gave a mash temp of 62.6 deg C, so a little warmer next time. A quick boil of the kettle and stir brought it up to 66 deg C. An hour and a half later I'd lost less than a degree, which seems reasonable. Mash pH was 5.4, so score one for the CRS additions.

Running off, using my Daab false bottom for the first time, with a gravity of 1.090:
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19 l of sparge water into the tun. I've learnt that the 4 or so kg of malt plus 19 l of water is almost exactly the capacity of my mash tun. Stirring was rather messy. Oops. Run off a second time, and all done:
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There seemed to be a reasonable amount of wort left in the tun. Perhaps a bottom drain would work better, and use the hole in the side for a thermometer. 24.74 l of 1.040 wort. I was hoping to finish the boil with 23 l of 1.042, so it wasn't looking good. Boiling on the hob took a while to get to temperature. A propane burner is looking more and more attactive.
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Cooled in about 12 minutes, better than expected, but then it got interesting. 18 l of wort in the fermenter at 1.060. Frantic scribbling suggested I needed about 7 l-ish more water to take it down to 1.042. Two runs to Sainsburys (having left my wallet behind the first time) gave me some bottles of water. Problem 2, there's not enough space in the fermenter for the calculated top up. I wound up diluting down to 23l, then measured the sg as 1.057. Now thoroughly confused (does having break material in the sample alter the measured gravity?), I tasted (yummy!), pitched S-04 and put in my airlock. 24 hours later, and all seems to be fermenting well.

I'll report back what it tastes like! Even if the gravity is higher than intended, it was fairly hoppy so will hopefully cope.

Lessons learned:
1) I need to practice more with a hydrometer
2) Have spare ingredients handy
3) Find out more about sparging, can I do three batches rather than two?

Now which brew to do once I've emptied the fermenter...

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:05 pm
by WishboneBrewery
You have the same pan as me...! is it the 38L one?

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:04 pm
by mbt22
Yes, that's the one. As an aside, any recommendations for good pubs in Keighley? I happen to be there (or on the railway at least) for a stag do in a few weeks.

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:39 pm
by WishboneBrewery
it depends on what you call a 'good pub' ? ;)

First choice is 'The Cricketers' - http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&sou ... 2&t=h&z=16

Next for Beer would be 'The Boltmakers' - http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 16&iwloc=A

Along with 'The Brown Cow' - http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 16&iwloc=A

'The Commercial' - http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 16&iwloc=A

'The Lord Rodney' - http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 16&iwloc=B

:)

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:24 pm
by Trunky
:)

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:33 pm
by Horden Hillbilly
Congrats on your 1st ag brew, I'm sure that you will be delighted with it despite your couple of glitches. Don't worry about them, ag brews are very forgiving if a brewday does not go exacly to plan & I am speaking from experience! :D

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:34 pm
by Jim
Well done on your first AG. 8)

I suspect you didn't preheat your mash tun - you should have got a mash temperature near to 66C with that strike temperature.

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:23 pm
by DarloDave
Yeah I was going to say that, next time just stick a kettle or two full of boiling water in 10 mins before your start mashing and you'l be fine.

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:52 pm
by mbt22
Thanks everyone. I shall add mash tun heating to my plan for next time.

Re: Pics of first all-grain Landlord, and what went wrong

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:49 pm
by timb
Heating the mash tun using the mash liquor works for me. Heat to 80-85 degrees, add to tun. I then weigh out the grains etc. while keeping an eye on the temp. When it's down to strike temp in goes the grain.