Kolsch day again :D

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Kolsch day again :D

Post by leedsbrew » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:09 pm

Managed to fit in a swift brewday today.

Tettnang Kolsch 23L 1.050OG

Fermentables
Ingredient Amount % MCU When
UK Lager Malt 4.335 kg 90.0 % 3.2 In Mash/Steeped
UK Munich Malt 0.241 kg 5.0 % 0.5 In Mash/Steeped
UK Wheat Malt 0.241 kg 5.0 % 0.2 In Mash/Steeped


Hops
Variety Alpha Amount IBU Form When
German Tettnang 4.5 % 45 g 21.1 Loose Whole Hops All Of Boil
German Tettnang 4.5 % 30 g 7.0 Loose Whole Hops 15 Min From End


Yeast
White Labs WLP029-German Ale/Kolsch


Managed 22.5L @ 1.049 so not bad. Did a 60 min boil to try and speed things up. The IC was frozen and so was the outside tap so it's currently cooling overnight in the FV and will get 200ml of thick wlp029 slurry pitched tomorrow morning! :D

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:14 am

I had good intentions of brewing yesterday, didn't happen, did parent stuff, Present stuff... Hope its a good one, I am assuming your first Kolsch went down very well?
I've got a few Tubes of Yeast in the fridge that I need to get through, WLP029 is one of them... it will be going in an APA I think.

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by Manx Guy » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:28 am

Sounds good!

Is this the same grain bill you used in your first attempt? Its a style I'm very interested in - I've even taken the step of getting some Kolsch yeast!

I've seen another recipe I like and that has about 8% Wheat malt in it - but for hopping it only has additions at 60 & 30 mins...
I think I'd like abit more hop flavour(certainly compared with the commercial examples I've had), so an addition at 15mins seems like a good idea - is that your thinking behind the 15 min addition in your recipe (above)?

Cheers

Guy

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:19 pm

Looks good - I love kolsch and brewed one for last summer with spalt hops (highly recommended for the style and have a lovely flavour)

Good yeast too - will be using that again in summer - also nice as it's a beer to drink a bit young so a few weeks cold conditioning and it's great..

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by leedsbrew » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:37 pm

Cheers chaps!

Ade, yeah the last on was great! Not much left of it so decided to get another on! I'd definitely recomend this yeast for any pale style! Give off some sulphur which carries into the beer and gives it a nice lagery taste! It is also awesome as a bottling strain. I had ten bottles worth left over after legging the last batch! It has set rock hard in the bottles so much so that I can pour all the way without it disturbing the yeast! In fact the bottled version was so good I'm going to bottle the whole lot this time, this will also leave a keg empty to get something else into it! Bonus



MG, yes it is the same grain bill! It turned out a lovely pale colour last time with good body (for a 62/62oc mash) and good head, leaving a nice lace, so I decided to stick with it! You right about the hop schedule as well! I wanted some hop aroma/flavour but also wanted it 'close' to style! Turned out well with the saaz and NB hops. Hope it's as good with the tettnang. I e never used them before!

LS. It's the speed that encouraged me to get this second batch on! I reckon my stocks will be about demolished after Christmas so wanted something quick to keep me from having to buy beer! I'll definitley be keeping this style as a regular house beer!

Manx Guy

Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by Manx Guy » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:43 pm

Hi LB,
Nice one!
I'e seen recipes that quote a mash temp of anywhere between 63-65C mash, on your advice I'll go 62-63ish... I guess the final gravity is low then - in the 1008 area?

One last question - what sort of carbonation/priming level will you go for in the bottled batch? From memory, they are reasonably well carbonated -more than an ale but less than lager...

Cheers!

Guy
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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by Barley Water » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:22 pm

Just a brewing tip from Texas. When making any beer from primarily pilsner malt, it is a very good idea to boil the work for 1 1/2 hours with no lid on the copper (you should never use a lid anyway for that matter). The reason for this is that pils malt is very high in the precursior for DMS (usually shows up as a canned corn type taste, if you ever get a beer with a lot in it you will know it). I don't know the chemistry involved but the stuff is volatile and boiling the wort drives it off. Anyhow, when making pilsner, helles or kolsch, the beers have a very delicate flavor and any type of issue is going to show up in the glass. Every year during our big contest over here, I help judge and always run into a few beers with this problem and frankly it ruins them. Because of that, I know that this problem is not just an isolated thing (like hot side aeration for instance, an urban myth), it's best to take precautions to avoid it. Hopefully the original poster will not run into this issue with his beer but it is something to think about.
Drinking:Saison (in bottles), Belgian Dubbel (in bottles), Oud Bruin (in bottles), Olde Ale (in bottles),
Abbey Triple (in bottles), Munich Helles, Best Bitter (TT Landlord clone), English IPA
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Fermenting: Munich Dunkel
Next up: Bitter (London Pride like), ESB
So many beers to make, so little time (and cold storage space)

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by lancsSteve » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:26 pm

I used the 'Pale marris otter' for mine which I think is one of the best malts out there - marris otter quality but malted as a lager malt so does both pale beers like kolsch really well and also UK ales. Seems to be better quality than 'lager malt'...

LB - with you on speed, kolsch and weissens seem to be good beers for a quick turnaround that's good for them rather than the result of impatience!

leedsbrew

Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by leedsbrew » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:42 pm

I originally planne to mash in at 65 but because of the cold weather the mash run wasn't pre heated as much ad it should have been so the mash barley got over 63oC! Turned out well though! The final gravity was around 1007 I think! I carbonated It to 2.6 vols co2

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by WishboneBrewery » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:59 pm

Sounds good :)

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by leedsbrew » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:27 pm

well it's currently bubbling away at 13oC (the ambient temp of my spare room! It's kicking a hell of a lot of co2 so i reckon it's happy at that temp! I imagine the actual temp of the beer will be a bit higher due to exothermic action of the fermentation! :D should produce another nice clean beer!


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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by WishboneBrewery » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:37 pm

So fermentation temp is best kept low? I wonder if the Ambient temp in my Garage would do?

Do you, or did you lager this after bottling? Does it drop bright in the bottle OK?

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Re: Kolsch day again :D

Post by WishboneBrewery » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:50 pm

ahh, I see you already mentioned it settled well.

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