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OK, after a couple of false starts and spending hours knocking 70 litres of ice out of my HLT, I can finally brew tomorrow...

I've heard some guys complain of soapy flavours with Bobek. I have only used them once and they seemed OK and very similar to the old Styrians but I would be very interested to hear from your experiences of using them heavily late in the copper, I might back off and replace with something else..

Pale Ale

Type: All Grain
Date: 29/12/2010
Batch Size: 12.00 gal
Brewer:
Boil Size: 13.74 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 75.27 %
1.00 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 10.75 %
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 10.75 %
0.30 kg Pilsner (2 Row) UK (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
40.00 gm Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 30.4 IBU
200.00 gm Styrian Goldings (Bobek) [5.40 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.048 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.048 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.84 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.95 %
Bitterness: 30.4 IBU Calories: 211 cal/pint
Est Color: 8.0 SRM Color: Color

Mash Profile

Mash Name: My Mash Total Grain Weight: 9.30 kg
Sparge Water: 9.32 gal Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: 22.2 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Step Time Name Description Step Temp
40 min Step Add 26.04 L of water at 75.3 C 69.0 C

Looks good. I am mini mashing for my yeast starter tomorrow. No idea what to make.

Got this one boiling now. Going to be a late one.

Are you all done now M? How did it go?

Was it a late one??
That is a hefty amount of Bobek in the end!

Yeah it was pretty smooth, although my pump struggled getting all the wort out the kettle. Tossed in 4 packs of us-05 and fermenting it cool, 16c. Better clean out the mash tun now...

Sounds delicious!

Does sound nice. That's quite a lot of crystal malt....however you've got a big wedge of hops at the end to balance it. Interesting.

It is pale crystal too, so the colour only came out as golden. US-05 really chews through all the sugar.

Just chilled this down ready for a secondary tomorrow. The flavour is like an unsweetened grapefruit/cranberry juice. Sour and slightly bitter.

I'll rack it on top of some Amarillo & Simcoe for a week then it will probably need a couple of weeks in the keg to calm down.

This is a problem because I don't have any beer stocks.

This has been in the keg for a week or two as well as a week on the dry hops.

I still don't like it, very sharp and sour. Like grapefruit pith. Bobek, trying them again now, are not how I remember old Styrian Goldings. The dry hops aren't really popping either, they have a bit of a wet dog/damp aroma in the background.

This was garden fertiliser today, it tasted pretty nasty. If it's not good now it probably never will be.

Yeah that's a shame Mysterio - I think Bobek is just a rank flavour hop. It's aroma isn't bad but I also poured the experiments I made using it for bittering and flavour down the sink. Definitely worth seeking out real Styrians if you wan't that delicous earthy / lemoney character imo.

I used to use old Styrian Goldings all the time and they are incredibly mellow and tasty. I seem to remember using Bobek once and thinking there was no difference, which is odd, because I know for sure they are completely different now. So can you still get fresh crop old school Styrian Goldings?

Well the last lot I got were from Hop and Grape - in pellet form as I used them for the 0-minute and dry hop additions on my IPA but they were pretty expensive when compared to TMM's prices. I think Brouwland also sell them?
I think I saw them on the-home-brew-shop a while back too, come to think of it.