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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Soay4699 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:09 pm

I remember Abbott from the eighties and early nineties. If I drank three pints or more I would have a hell of a head the next day. I remember reading somewhere that GK knew about this and had asked a laboratory to analyse what needed changing in their process to eliminate this phenomenon and it worked because I don't get that bad head any more.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Dennis King » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:55 pm

Soay4699 wrote:I remember Abbott from the eighties and early nineties. If I drank three pints or more I would have a hell of a head the next day. I remember reading somewhere that GK knew about this and had asked a laboratory to analyse what needed changing in their process to eliminate this phenomenon and it worked because I don't get that bad head any more.
I worked with a guy who was a lager boy. Out of the blue he turned up at my local one Saturday lunch time to try this Abbot stuff I had told him about. He would normally drink at least 5 pints of mega-crap on a Saturday lunch time session. He had 4 Abbot's and was a blithering wreck. I had to put him in a taxi home and he's wife gave me a right bollocking for sending him home in such a state. To my knowledge he never drank Abbot again but he did say how much he enjoyed the taste.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Chug » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:29 pm

We used to have a wine bar locally in the 80's that also sold beer and after 3 months he stopped doing the beer and only did wine coz he didn't want to be just another watering hole for local drunks, his bar went dead, after a month he asked a few of my mates if he did beer on Sundays as a kind of club would they go back, long story short he started getting a barrel of Abbot in for Sundays, and we called the club SLAG...Sunday Lunchtime Abbot Group.

Two or three pints were enough for most and we had some crazy sessions, every week had a theme, lampshade hat week, american football week, etc, if you didn't dress up you had to drink a pint down in one hit, we also had to use opposite sex toilets, if you forgot, you had to down a pint in one, you get the idea, the more you drank the more you forgot to use the right loo, so the more you had to drink and the more you needed the loo! ah fond memories, I may have to make this for a future brew.

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Re: Abbott Ale

Post by Pegasus » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:50 pm

Dennis King wrote:
Hanglow wrote:Abbott was supposed to have been a great beer a few decades ago, I'd have loved to have tried that one
It was the best beer I have ever drank, it was a standard regional brewery in those days before they tried for world domination.
I agree, lovely beer. Used to drink it at the Railway, Billericay, in late 70's. Had 2 firkins of it at my wedding.

Had a pint in a Weatherspoons on Sunday (I rarely drink in W's and it was the only 'non craft' beer on tap). It was barely drinkable.

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Re: Abbott Ale

Post by Dennis King » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:15 pm

Pegasus wrote:
Dennis King wrote:
Hanglow wrote:I agree, lovely beer. Used to drink it at the Railway, Billericay, in late 70's. Had 2 firkins of it at my wedding.
Had my stag night in the railway, got arrested for drunk and disorderly that night. Also had one firkin at our wedding.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Hanglow » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:18 pm

Well played Dennis =D>
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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Kyle_T » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:33 pm

I do have a recipe for Abbot in the 70's that's reportedly from one of the original brewing ledgers, I can dig it out if people want it.
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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by alexlark » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:34 pm

Yea lets see it Kyle, cheers

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Kyle_T » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:43 pm

Greene King Abbot Ale 1970
Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 23.0
Total Grain (kg): 4.530
Total Hops (g): 68.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.050 (°P): 12.4
Final Gravity (FG): 1.011 (°P): 2.8
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.07 %
Colour (SRM): 12.9 (EBC): 25.3
Bitterness (IBU): 30.8 (Tinseth)
Balance (BU:GU): 0.62
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 80
Boil Time (Minutes): 90

Grain Bill
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3.750 kg Pale Malt (82.78%)
0.285 kg Invert Sugar No. 1 (6.29%)
0.285 kg Flaked Maize (6.29%)
0.170 kg Pale Crystal (3.75%)
0.040 kg Black Malt (0.88%)

Hop Bill
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28.0 g East Kent Golding Leaf (5% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil) (1.2 g/L)
28.0 g Fuggles Leaf (5.6% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil) (1.2 g/L)
12.0 g East Kent Golding Leaf (5% Alpha) @ 7 Days (Dry Hop) (0.5 g/L)

Misc Bill
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3.0 g Protofloc Tablet @ 15 Minutes (Boil)

Single step Infusion at 65°C for 90 Minutes.
Fermented at 21°C with Wibblers (Ridleys).


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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by alexlark » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:46 pm

Quite a bit different to my recipe. No hops at the end either, only a dry hop.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Kyle_T » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:24 pm

Yep, this comes from one of my local groups who some have had dealing with GK before and managed to have access to the archived ledgers...apparently
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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Dennis King » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:53 pm

Sod you Kyle, you know I'm going to have to brew it.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by WalesAles » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:37 pm

Dennis King wrote:Sod you Kyle, you know I'm going to have to brew it.
HaHaHa! Dennis! :D
You must be in the ELC? :D
Please keep us informed on the Brew.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Dennis King » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:42 pm

WalesAles wrote:
Dennis King wrote:Sod you Kyle, you know I'm going to have to brew it.
HaHaHa! Dennis! :D
You must be in the ELC? :D
Please keep us informed on the Brew.

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Re: Abbot Ale

Post by Kyle_T » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:51 pm

Dennis King wrote:Sod you Kyle, you know I'm going to have to brew it.
What did I do? :whistle:
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