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Mosaic Pale

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:21 pm
by AdrianTrace
Well, mostly Mosaic :wink:

I tend to brew on a Sunday evening (every Sunday, if possible) as this gives me a nice routine - a week in the primary FV, before transferring to secondary to dry hop, which allows me to scavenge some of the yeast cake for the next brew. I can do this transfer whilst the boil is going to limit the yeast cake's exposure.

Anyway, today's brew (14L/3 Gal @ 1.040):

Fermentables:
1.5kg Light LME
0.3kg Extra Light DME
450g 30 EBC Caramalt

Hops:
60 mins: 10g 2012 Topaz 12.5%AA (age adjusted)
10 mins: 10g 2015 Mosaic 11.82%AA (plus 1/3 whirlfloc)
Steep: 30g 2015 Mosaic 11.82%AA
Dry hop: 40g 2015 Mosaic 11.82%AA

250ml of US-05 yeastcake from my fruit punch beer (viewtopic.php?f=5&t=75600)

Having been inspired by Seymour and others, I searched through the 10g Topaz and 10g Mosaic: found about 15 seeds in the Topaz, nothing in the Mosaic. I've potted up the Topaz seeds to see if I can get some Topaz babies [-o<

Grain & LME:
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DME Dissolved in hot water
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US-05 (plus truuuuub)
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1.040
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Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:18 pm
by Clibit
The lure of quick extract brewing! I can feel it tugging away. I would do a shorter boil though, to save even more time, and use more hops to achieve the same IBUs. 30 minutes, maybe even 20.

Caramalt + Mosaic should be tasty.

Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:26 pm
by AdrianTrace
Clibit wrote:The lure of quick extract brewing! I can feel it tugging away. I would do a shorter boil though, to save even more time, and use more hops to achieve the same IBUs. 30 minutes, maybe even 20.

Caramalt + Mosaic should be tasty.
To be honest, the 60 min boil is mainly to make sure that what's extracted from the steeped grain has enough boil to properly cold break. I've done at least one recently that had no hops until 15 minutes from the end as they were all relatively high alpha American hops.

Maybe the full hour isn't necessary, but I get enough break material to clog the hop filter, so I assume it's helping - would only boiling for 15 minutes with Whirlfloc be enough to clear the beer?

Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:23 am
by Clibit
I don't recall clarity issues from the times I steeped some grains to add to kits or extract in the past. And I just used to boil for 20 mins or so. It's only a small amount of grain.

Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:27 am
by AdrianTrace
Hmm. Shorter boil length would be good, cheers Clibit.

Although, I might stick to 60 mins for my porter recipe, which has 2kg of steeping grain.

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Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:58 am
by Clibit
I trust this fella...

http://beerandwinejournal.com/15-minute-pale-ale/


Some good points in this too, things to consider...

http://www.brewersfriend.com/2012/08/25 ... il-tested/

Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:50 am
by AdrianTrace
Sold!

Good articles, thanks

Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:30 pm
by Rookie
Clibit wrote:The lure of quick extract brewing! I can feel it tugging away. I would do a shorter boil though, to save even more time, and use more hops to achieve the same IBUs. 30 minutes, maybe even 20.
Last year I did an experiment with some pilsner DME. I boiled for only 21 minutes with a bunch of sterlings and added some saaz for the last five. I split the batch in three and fermented part with WLP830 at lager temp, part with the same yeast at ale temp, and the third part with Wyeast 1764 (Pacman) also at ale temp.
It turned out pretty good. I entered the third part into a competition as a pilsner and got a pretty good score (upper 30s).

Re: Mosaic Pale

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:29 pm
by Clibit
Rookie wrote:
Clibit wrote:The lure of quick extract brewing! I can feel it tugging away. I would do a shorter boil though, to save even more time, and use more hops to achieve the same IBUs. 30 minutes, maybe even 20.
Last year I did an experiment with some pilsner DME. I boiled for only 21 minutes with a bunch of sterlings and added some saaz for the last five. I split the batch in three and fermented part with WLP830 at lager temp, part with the same yeast at ale temp, and the third part with Wyeast 1764 (Pacman) also at ale temp.
It turned out pretty good. I entered the third part into a competition as a pilsner and got a pretty good score (upper 30s).
That sounds good. You liked the Pacman version best, was there much in it?