The move away from extract..

[James]

Noticed on the Hop and Grape website something about malt extract and customs duty. Ive seen the price of extract increase over the past year or so, so did a bit of digging..

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPort ... e=document

Para 3.7.4 says..

Products that are canned, bottled, packaged or prepared for use in home wine or beer making are standard-rated. This includes:

§kits for home brewing, wine making etc;
§retail packs of hopped malt extract, malted barley, roasted barley, hops;
§special wine and brewers’ yeasts;
§grape concentrates; and
§retail packs of foods, which are specialised to home wine making, such as dried elderberries or sloes for making country wines.

This came into force in May 04 (about when I’d noticed the price increse)

So you pay VAT on extract, and yeast but not on grains. <_<

Customs, don’t you just love ‘em!

The move to AG is beckoning….

JC

[bitter_dave]

QUOTE (James @ Jan 20 2006, 03:02 PM)
The move to AG is beckoning….

JC
...or get yerself down the local health food shop and buy some extract from them.

I got some the other day from Holland and Barret when I needed to make a yeast starter to salvage a kit that had gone pear shaped. Worked fine for the purpose - would presumably work fine used as the main extract to make beer.. I seem to remember someone on this forum saying this is what they did..

The cost was £1.35 for a 454 gm jar, so for just over £8.00 you could get just under 3kg. Bet you could find bigger / cheaper jars elsewhere as well.

Disclaimer: obviously, none of the above is true mr customs man.

[bitter_dave]

QUOTE (Daft as a Brush @ Jan 20 2006, 04:57 PM) It wont be brewers grade extract bd, what you have is food grade malt extract which is substandard by comparrison and wont make good beer.
...ahh, don't feel so bad about paying £15 for the brupaks stuff now - thanks for that.

Presumably doing yeast starters with this stuff is fine though? You don't use much..

[bitter_dave]

QUOTE (Daft as a Brush @ Jan 20 2006, 04:57 PM) It wont be brewers grade extract bd, what you have is food grade malt extract which is substandard by comparrison and wont make good beer.
.. i didn't like going in a health food shop anyway.. made me feel right ill...

[James]

Yeah you should be fine, the volume of extract used is so small, I doubt if you'd get a problem.

For starters I always use the dried spraymalt, and keep it in a VERY dry jar, comes in dead handy. Avoid jars that have have spicy/strong smelling foods in them (Apple sauce and Mayo Jars are good) as they might impart into the malt

JC

[James]

QUOTE (bitter_dave @ Jan 20 2006, 05:45 PM).. i didn't like going in a health food shop anyway.. made me feel right ill...

Why do they sell chocolate coated rasins in health food shops...healthy my arse!!

[Reg]

Interesting, when did malt extract stop being a foodstuff! :huh:

[Andy]

OK, how much do you reckon for the following purchase I've just made from local brewery:-



5.7kg of crushed Maris Otter
680g Goldings
Bag of liquid brewers yeast

and...

3.5 pint take out of a very nice 5% ale


Well ?

B)

[Andy]

DaaB, thanks for that yeast link, I'll read that tonight.

As for the price, well I got change from a tenner £9.50 I think it was.


Edit: The beer's lovely too, my favorite Hogs Back Brewery brew....

(OK, the ale was on offer at £1/pint)

Edit2: Beer all gone now!

Just finished setting up the garage brewery ready for tomorrow!

[Jim]

£9.50!!!!!!!

Bloody hell, I'm off to look in yellow pages for my nearest friendly microbrewery!

[Andy]

[BlightyBrewer]

Are those hops fresh?

Looks like you got a good deal there andy.

[Andy]

Ohhhh yes, nice and fresh. The grain is fresh also, the guy measured it out direct from the sacks the brewery use.

[BlightyBrewer]

I think I am going to have to make friends with a friendly microbrewery as well! B)