Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by Rookie » Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:30 pm

Add 8 ozs of 2-row to the crystal and torrified wheat and steep/mash at 150 for 30-45 minutes and you're good to go.
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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by NeilE1970 » Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:18 pm

Rookie wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:30 pm
Add 8 ozs of 2-row to the crystal and torrified wheat and steep/mash at 150 for 30-45 minutes and you're good to go.
Hi Rookie,
Thanks for the reply mate but I’m not sure you’ve got the full gist (or should that be grist? lol) of the conversation. Out of interest where are you at with the grain to water ratio on that.

Cheers mate
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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by guypettigrew » Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:34 pm

Usual grain:water ratio is 1:2.5. That is, 1kg grain to 2.5 litres of water. Not sure what that is in American weights and volumes!

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by NeilE1970 » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm

Hi Guy,
Very close here I believe, after a bit of reading….1lb grain(454g):1.333 US quart 1262ml/g , which when doubled is about the same.
Although when multiplied out using that ratio for 1kg of grain it comes to 2779g water so slightly more water for the typical US ratio.

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by MashBag » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:51 am

Cover the pot and leave it till next morning
Absolutely

I would not bother putting it in the oven. Waste of time and energy.

Get it to 76c for 5 mins with a clean, close fitting lid on it and come back next day.

Do not open the lid, until you need plan to continue.

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by NeilE1970 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:32 am

MashBag wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:51 am
Cover the pot and leave it till next morning
Absolutely

I would not bother putting it in the oven. Waste of time and energy.

Get it to 76c for 5 mins with a clean, close fitting lid on it and come back next day.

Do not open the lid, until you need plan to continue.
Is this with all the grains still in the pot or have they been removed and it’s just the remaining wort?

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by Rookie » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:26 pm

NeilE1970 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:18 pm
Rookie wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:30 pm
Add 8 ozs of 2-row to the crystal and torrified wheat and steep/mash at 150f/65.6c for 30-45 minutes and you're good to go.
Hi Rookie,
Thanks for the reply mate but I’m not sure you’ve got the full gist (or should that be grist? lol) of the conversation. Out of interest where are you at with the grain to water ratio on that.

Cheers mate
When I did partial mash I put the grains into the full amount of water with good results. I also figured out that 150f or so was a good temperature for.mixing in dme.
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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by NeilE1970 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:25 am

Rookie wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:26 pm
NeilE1970 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:18 pm
Rookie wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:30 pm
Add 8 ozs of 2-row to the crystal and torrified wheat and steep/mash at 150f/65.6c for 30-45 minutes and you're good to go.
Hi Rookie,
Thanks for the reply mate but I’m not sure you’ve got the full gist (or should that be grist? lol) of the conversation. Out of interest where are you at with the grain to water ratio on that.

Cheers mate
When I did partial mash I put the grains into the full amount of water with good results. I also figured out that 150f or so was a good temperature for.mixing in dme.
Wow, I didn’t think that was possible and for the mash to work, I thought that the water has to be within certain limits for the enzymes to work properly…that’s from the bit of reading I’ve done about mashing. So much to learn !

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by MashBag » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:10 pm

Is this with all the grains still in the pot or have they been removed and it’s just the remaining wort?
Either. But Best would be to pop the grain in a bag and then just lift it out. Small batches work well with supermarket veg bags.

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by MashBag » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:12 pm

I thought that the water has to be within certain limits for the enzymes to work properly…that’s from the bit of reading I’ve done about mashing. So much to learn !
No. I full volume mash all the time.

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Re: Flaked oats and torrified wheat in extract recipes?

Post by NeilE1970 » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:43 pm

Sorry for the delay in replying.

I have Maris otter grain! I will be doing a partial mash with it to see how it goes and will report back in due course. It would have been this weekend but there’s been a few spanners thrown into the works.

It will also be a partial boil (3 US gallons). I don’t currently have any easy way to cool a full boil down quickly. I do my cool down with ice in the sink it takes about an hour. Not sure what type of cooler to go with…the coiled metal one or a plate chiller.
Then that goes into the bucket and from about 6-8 ft I then pour in my 3 additional gallons with aerates the wort nicely.

Have a great weekend.

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