ABV

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Harry Lime

ABV

Post by Harry Lime » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:53 am

I like to know my brew ABV fairly accurately and wondered which is the best method.

Have been using OG-FG/7.5, but seen figures ranging from 7.4 to over 8 for the same calculation :!:
Are the rather involved calculations I've seen on the web any more accurate? I don't mind doing the tricky maths if the result is better.

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Re: ABV

Post by gti1x » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:34 pm

I can't give a definitive answer here, but all the estimates for ABV are just that - estimates. Several things affect the amount of alchohol produced from a certain level of OG-FG change, including:

type of sugar (not all sugars are equal in their increase in SG
how much growth the yeast has to do (during which time it will use sugar, but not produce alchohol).
presence of other microorganisms (not necessarily giving off flavours)
etc

So what we do is make a guess at some or all of these effects and determine how much alchohol is in the final product. When I started I used a complex online calculator. Then I lost the link, so I started to use (OG-FG)/7.5. I checked some of my earlier calculations against this and was rarely more than 0.1%ABV different, so I kept with the easier version. Of course if you brew very strong or weak beers this approximation may be less accurate, but I find it OK for what I brew.

Hope this helps

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Re: ABV

Post by boingy » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:39 pm

There is an interesting thread about it here:

www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31681


Just don't be expecting any firm conclusions!

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Re: ABV

Post by Kev888 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:20 pm

I too understood that the change in density is a consequence of other influences too - which you may be able to compensate for mathematically but still won't provide a direct measure.

The effect on the body, raising of blood alcohol and rate of metabalism is not a precisely predictable thing either, so for any practical purposes as long as I can gauge 'aproximately' how much I'm drinking then I'm happy. I don't sell beer, but if I did what would matter there is presumably matching what customs/excise require rather than achieving ultimate accuracy.

Is there a reason why you need greater accuracy, or is it just a case of choosing between the options?

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