Duvel

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Swiller

Duvel

Post by Swiller » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:40 pm

I am going to have a go at a Duvel recipe I got hold of,
the only thing that I am concerned about it the guide
says ferment in primary for 5-7 days then transfer into
a secondary with .5kg of corn sugar. When secondary
fermentation is complete cold condition for 4 weeks.
Then prime and bottle and mature for 5 weeks.
What concerns me is after cold conditioning will I have
trouble with 'Sleepy Yeast' and have problems with
carbonation in the bottles?

Any advice would be good.

Cheers J

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Re: Duvel

Post by fatboylard » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:05 pm

Hello Swiller,

From what I understand, Duvel has a second quantity of yeast pitched after 21 days at around 0ºc. I don't know about quantities but you could probably pitch a couple of grams of T-58 in your bottling bucket when the beer has come back up to room temperature.

What recipe are you using? 'Brew Like A Monk' gives the grist ratio of 95% Pilsner malt and 5% dextrose but I don't know how that would translate to extract. It'd be interesting to see how this turns out.

Iechyd da,

Sam
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Demijohn 1: Mead

Swiller

Re: Duvel

Post by Swiller » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:29 pm

Hi fatboylard,
thanks for your post.

I was going to follow this recipe:-

Duvel




Moortgat Brewery, Village of Breendonk in Flanders, Belgium




Duvel (Devil) is Belgium's best selling beer. It has a yeast and pear aroma with a complex flavor of malt and hops. This pale colored classic finishes dry and aromatic.





Yield: 5 gallons (18.9 L)




Final gravity: 1.012-1.015




SRM 5





Original gravity: 1.079-1.082




IBU 31




8.5% alcohol by volume







Crush and steep in 150°F (65.5°C) water for 20 minutes:




½ lb. (.23 kg) 2.5°L German light crystal malt
4 oz. (113 g) Belgian aromatic malt




Alternate Methods





Mini-mash Method: Mash 3.25 lb. (1.5 kg) Belgian 2-row Pilsner malt and the specialty grains at 150°F (65.5°C) for 90 minutes. Then follow the extract recipe omitting 2.5 lb. (1.1 kg) DME at the beginning of the boil.





All-grain Method: Mash 9.75 lb. (4.4 kg) Belgian 2-row Pilsner malt with the specialty grains at 150°F (65.5°C) for 90 minutes. Add 6 HBU (40% less than the extract recipe) of bittering hops, the candi sugar, and the corn sugar for 90 minutes of the boil. Add the flavor hops and Irish moss for the last 15 minutes of the boil and the aroma hops for the last 3 minutes.






Strain the grain water into your brew pot. Sparge the grains with ½ gallon (1.9 L) water at 150°F (65.5°C). Add water to the brew pot for 1.5 gallons (5.7 L) total volume. Bring the water to a boil and add:




6.5 lb. (3 kg) M&F extra-light DME
1 lb. (.45 kg) Belgian clear candi sugar
1.33 lb. (.7 kg) corn sugar
2 oz. (57 g) Styrian Goldings @ 5% AA (10 HBU)
(bittering hop)




Add water until total volume in the brew pot is 2.5 gallons (9 L). Boil for 45 minutes then add:




½ oz. (14 g) Styrian Goldings (flavor hop)
½ oz. Czech Saaz (flavor hop)
1 tsp. (5 ml) Irish moss




Boil for 12 minutes then add:




½ oz. (14 g) Styrian Goldings (aroma hop)




Boil for 3 minutes. Cool for 15 minutes. Strain the cooled wort into the primary fermenter and add cold water to obtain 5 gallons (18.9 L). When the wort temperature is under 80°F (26.6°C), pitch yeast.




Recultured yeast from Duvel bottle
(Ferment at 70-75°F [21-24°C])




Ferment in the primary fermenter 5-7 days, then siphon into the secondary fermenter. Add:




1 lb. (.45 kg) corn sugar boiled in 1 pint (460 ml) water
1 oz. (28 g) of pear flavoring




When fermentation is complete cold condition at 35°F (1.6°C) for 4 weeks then bottle with:




¾ cup (180 ml) corn sugar




Mature in bottles for 5 weeks at about 70°F (21.1°C).

Spud395

Re: Duvel

Post by Spud395 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:34 pm

I've been reading a good bit about Belgian beers and Duvel, the pear flavour is from the yeast not a pear addition of any sort.

Swiller

Re: Duvel

Post by Swiller » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:48 pm

Hi Spud

Agreed, No pear flavourings going into mine.

J

Spud395

Re: Duvel

Post by Spud395 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:33 pm

Cool, I got some wyeast 1214 in the fridge for my 1st attempt at a Belgian brew or 2 as soon as I free up some fridge space.
Just gone Belgium mad at the minute.
Good luck with your Duvel

Swiller

Re: Duvel

Post by Swiller » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:10 pm

Cheers Spud yes, I am the same I seem to have gone
a bit Belgian mad at present.
Good luck with yours and happy brewing.

J

richc

Re: Duvel

Post by richc » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:52 pm

For Duval you really want WLP570 which is apparently the actual yeast used.

Swiller

Re: Duvel

Post by Swiller » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:33 pm

Hi richc, that is the yeast I have used
the ferment got under way within an hour
so I was well pleased. I am still unsure
about cold conditioning but I suppose it
is essential it just concerns me that the
yeast will not carbonate when bottled.

J

richc

Re: Duvel

Post by richc » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:45 pm

Let me know how it goes, an 'inspired by' Duvel is on my list of beers to brew fairly soon....

Swiller

Re: Duvel

Post by Swiller » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:32 pm

Update.
I bottled the Duvel clone a week or so ago and couldn't resist a quick sample just for research purposes you understand.
It is slightly darker than Duvel but the nose and taste is really quite close to the original, I intend to leave it in the garage now and have another taste in a couple of months. I will definitely get another batch going in the next few weeks.

J

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