Hot Break in Extract Brew

[Paddy Bubbles]

I'm planning on doing a partial boil extract brew without a wort chiller. I'd planned on using some ice cubes and topping up with cold water, but I'm not sure how this will affect the cold break material in the brewpot. Should I attempt to cool the wort with ice before transferring to the FV. Should I siphon, or will pouring carefully do...?

Any help appreciated.

[Uncle Joshua]

I did my first extract this weekend. because I don't have a wort chiller I made the brew on Saturday pm and pitched the yeast on Sunday am.

[Paddy Bubbles]

Did you get any hot break?

[Uncle Joshua]

To be honest, I wouldn't know what hot break is if it sneaked up behind me and stoll my pint.

[Paddy Bubbles]

To be honest, I wouldn't know what hot break is if it sneaked up behind me and stoll my pint.

Did you even read my original post? If you've nothing constructive to add to a thread, why bother...?

If anyone's got any constructive replies to my question(s), I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

[Uncle Joshua]

I told you that I cooled my wort over night because like you I don't have a chiller. no need to be an arse.

[Paddy Bubbles]

Right, and my question was concerned with the removal of hot break material..

[GrowlingDogBeer]

Right, and my question was concerned with the removal of hot break material..

No it wasn't, your question was to do with the removal of Cold Break material see below.

but I'm not sure how this will affect the cold break material in the brewpot

The response you got was that Uncle Joshua cooled overnight and didn't have any problems, Cold Break not causing any issues.

Then you asked if he got any Hot Break, and his response was that he didn't know what it was. Fair comment I thought.

You asked a question unrelated to your original post, and he responded with a valid reply.

Not quite sure why you felt it was unconstructive and felt the need to berate him over it.

The simple answer to your original question is that it doesn't matter if the cold break ends up in your FV, anybody who uses a plate chiller or counterflow chiller ends up with all the Cold Break in their FV with no problems.

Calm down everyone and have a beer

[trucker5774]

I still don't know if you're asking about hot break as your heading suggests or if you are asking about cold break as per your text

[GrowlingDogBeer]

I missed the fact it said hot break in the heading , I just read the text that talked about Cold Break, and in the context of talking about how to cool the wort I would assume it is Cold Break that is being referred to. Not sure now though, confused

[DaveyT]

Hello
As an extract brewer I'm not sure where I stand with breaks, both hot and cold, and I think Uncle Joshua doesn't either. BUT I've been told that break material is present in many forms. During the boil it's the scuzz left around the rim of the wort as the boil 'rolls'. During fermentation it sits on top of your brew with the bubbles. At the end, the stuff at the bottom of your FV is yeast and trub; trub being the crap you don't want in your beer, inc break material.
This is only what I reckon but it is based on what I've been told from pretty good sources.
To cool my wort I stick my brew pot in the kitchen sink with big ice cubes. I make the ice cubes using those plastic tubs you get take aways in, then I fill the sink with water. It helps to have more than one lot of ice to keep it cold. The cold break isn't obvious and I think everything looks as it would if I cooled the wort over night as Paddy Bubbles does.
Hope this helps.

David

[trucker5774]

I'm a grain brewer and regularly see hot break (looks kind of scummy) as the rolling boil starts. I use protafloc at 15 mins and after chilling I see very significant clumps of what could be described as shredded toilet paper with slime stuck to it. It gradually settles and the wort becomes quite clear Once you have seen it you will know exactly what I am talking about.

[Paddy Bubbles]

Everyone's cool here!

I'll rephrase my question, to make things a little clearer.

When making an extract brew, what is the best way to handle the removal of hot and cold break material given that I am not using a wort chiller.

I read a thread on another forum which advised tipping straining the boiled wort into an FV containing cold (iced) water. Allowing the break material to settle, then racking to another FV before pitching yeast. Sounds like it could work.

Any opinions on all this?

[Paddy Bubbles]

I'm a grain brewer and regularly see hot break (looks kind of scummy) as the rolling boil starts.

Do you skim off the hot break?

I use protafloc at 15 mins and after chilling I see very significant clumps of what could be described as shredded toilet paper with slime stuck to it. It gradually settles and the wort becomes quite clear Once you have seen it you will know exactly what I am talking about.

I'm confused. Do finings remove both hot and cold break?

Cheers.

[trucker5774]

I do nothing with the hot break other than watch it froth! The 15 minute addition of protafloc works wonders when the wort is chilled.........but I use an immersion chiller. I don't have any experience of other cooling techniques, sorry. What I do know is that break material in the FV should not affect the beer it will just settle out.