Torrified wheat

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Torrified wheat

Post by jrugman » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:58 pm

Returning to the craft after a bit of an absence I find in the back of my cupboard some DME and torrified wheat among other odds and sods.
I was going to try something like an IPA but maybe with a bit more head than the commercial bottled stuff.

Any thoughts about using torrified wheat with DME?

Graham's book lists many recipes using DME plus other grains but not as far as I can see, torrified wheat. Is there a reason for this?

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John

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Odp: Torrified wheat

Post by zgoda » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:00 pm

This is unmalted adjunct, you have to provide some enzymes to convert starch into fermentable sugars. Iow you have to mash it with some malt.

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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by super_simian » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:02 pm

Torrified wheat is unmalted, and must be mashed. Unmashed it will only put a bunch of starches into your beer, which is just begging for spoilage bacteria to move in.

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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by soupdragon » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:05 pm

Torrified wheat needs to be mashed. Most generally available dried malt extract doesn't have any diastatic power so can't convert the starch into sugars.
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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by soupdragon » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:06 pm

Bu**er. Beaten to it again..............

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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by Jocky » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:13 pm

With that out of the way... what else have you got in the back of your cupboard? Maybe we can put together a recipe on here.
Ingredients: Water, Barley, Hops, Yeast, Seaweed, Blood, Sweat, The swim bladder of a sturgeon, My enemies tears, Scenes of mild peril, An otter's handbag and Riboflavin.

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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by jrugman » Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:32 pm

Thanks Jocky.
I have crystal malt, chocolate malt and black malt, all about 1k each and some oldish hops, Challenger, foil wrapped and unopened. Also 2k Light DME unopened, yeast etc. I'd like to try a beer of about 6% and hoppy, something like an IPA for a change. Even better with a nice head.

Have previously brewed mostly bitters and stouts AG (or like Ditch's stuff) for my Cornie kegs. Fancy a change with Summer not too far away and a supply of chilled beer in bottles in the fridge.

Cheers, John.

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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by Jocky » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:01 pm

Bit difficult to suggest a good recipe I know for those ingredients... But I have a few ideas - if any sound interesting I'll dig out a recipe.

Avoiding stouts (and presumably porters too), chocolate/black malt can be used to great effect in dark mild. Although you're only going to be using a small amount (under 100g per 5 gallons). I have a recipe somewhere for Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby mild clone - that is about 6%, but not hugely hoppy.

Alternatively, a more summery beer might be to make something a bit like Coniston Bluebird. That is a lighter beer, both in strength (OG 1036) and colour, but you use a ton of Challenger to get a lovely hoppy finish to it. I'm planning to make some at the weekend in fact.

Ran across an interesting looking recipe for a big IPA with lots of summery hops the other day (also used a bit of black malt for colour... not much mind) - I think it was mainly Amarillo, Cascade and Columbus. Will try and find it again and post it up.
Ingredients: Water, Barley, Hops, Yeast, Seaweed, Blood, Sweat, The swim bladder of a sturgeon, My enemies tears, Scenes of mild peril, An otter's handbag and Riboflavin.

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Re: Torrified wheat

Post by Jocky » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:19 pm

With some tweaking this recipe looks like it might be what you're looking for: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f69/twisted ... ipa-94951/
Ingredients: Water, Barley, Hops, Yeast, Seaweed, Blood, Sweat, The swim bladder of a sturgeon, My enemies tears, Scenes of mild peril, An otter's handbag and Riboflavin.

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