Having done and just barreled my first kit and waiting for it to condition
and so far have thoroughly enjoyed the whole exprience.
I now fancy using an all grain kit but using the BIAB method of wort production
Is there a link on this forum or a post that describes what you to have to do?
I have a rough idea but would prefer a bit of guidance also
what extra equipment I would need i.e. type of bag
I am thinking of using this kit for my first attempt
http://copperkettlehomebrewing.co.uk/fu ... n-cornbine
or is this kit not suitable for BIAB
any advice would be greatly appreciated before I spend my dosh
I must apologise I have just realised that I have previously asked this question in another post
arrggh what a choob!!!
First attempt at BIAB
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Beer O'Clock
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Re: First attempt at BIAB
Short answer is yes. BIAB is All Grain but with different equipment.
However, that is a very expensive way to do it. Find a supplier (I use The Malt Miller) and order the bits you want for a couple of brews. It is much cheaper than having somebody prepare and package an individual recipe. It should cost about a tenner per brew.
However, that is a very expensive way to do it. Find a supplier (I use The Malt Miller) and order the bits you want for a couple of brews. It is much cheaper than having somebody prepare and package an individual recipe. It should cost about a tenner per brew.
I buy from The Malt Miller
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jimp2003
Re: First attempt at BIAB
Hi Donk!
If you have done kits then the amount of extra equipment you need is not that great. You need the bag of course and for that you can start with a square of voile but I would recomemnd a bag custom made to fit your stockpot or boiler. I got my bag form HERE.
For the boiler there are a number of options. I went for a 50 litre stockpot on a 8kw gas ring that can take the full volume of water and grain I would need for a 5 gallon brew even for high gravity beers. But others have gone for a smaller pot or an electric boiler that they top up part way through the boil or top up in the FV. It really depends on your budget, space etc.
Another piece of equipment that is useful is a chiller such as an immersion chiller that can be bought or made at home from a coil of copper pipe. A lot of people don't use a chiller but instead carefully transfer the wort from the boiler into the sanitised FV or a big jerrycan to cool overnight.
There really are so many variations to this method that you should be able to find one that suits your situation, just keep asking questions here and also check out this website: http://www.biabrewer.info/
With regards to the kit you have chosen, Beer O'Clock is right that it is an expensive way to buy ingredients for an AG brew but its still cheaper than a premium kit such as a Woodfordes. Also if you are wanting to dip your toe in then buying the ready made up AG kits is a good way to do it. You can get cheaper AG kits at Worcester Hop Shop which might be worth considering.
Let us know how you get on and good luck in advance for your first AG brew.
Cheers!
Jim
If you have done kits then the amount of extra equipment you need is not that great. You need the bag of course and for that you can start with a square of voile but I would recomemnd a bag custom made to fit your stockpot or boiler. I got my bag form HERE.
For the boiler there are a number of options. I went for a 50 litre stockpot on a 8kw gas ring that can take the full volume of water and grain I would need for a 5 gallon brew even for high gravity beers. But others have gone for a smaller pot or an electric boiler that they top up part way through the boil or top up in the FV. It really depends on your budget, space etc.
Another piece of equipment that is useful is a chiller such as an immersion chiller that can be bought or made at home from a coil of copper pipe. A lot of people don't use a chiller but instead carefully transfer the wort from the boiler into the sanitised FV or a big jerrycan to cool overnight.
There really are so many variations to this method that you should be able to find one that suits your situation, just keep asking questions here and also check out this website: http://www.biabrewer.info/
With regards to the kit you have chosen, Beer O'Clock is right that it is an expensive way to buy ingredients for an AG brew but its still cheaper than a premium kit such as a Woodfordes. Also if you are wanting to dip your toe in then buying the ready made up AG kits is a good way to do it. You can get cheaper AG kits at Worcester Hop Shop which might be worth considering.
Let us know how you get on and good luck in advance for your first AG brew.
Cheers!
Jim
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donk
Re: First attempt at BIAB
Thanks for the replies Jimp and Beer o clock
I can see where you are coming from regarding ingredients on the cost front.
I Have just brought Graham Wheelers book, Brew your Own British Real Ale as recommended
by Runwell-Steve. So i am just getting to grips with methods,terminology etc so for the me kit based
route is ideal for me as I then can see what things are and follow instructions, so then I can slowly grasp it all
even if simple it maybe to most, there is always that step in the dark to find a system or method that
as you say suits my situation,plus I now have the added bonus of asking daft questions on here, as always keep
my other half happy and not have to store bags of ingredients and kit about the house and or the garage.
I assume the art of the home brew is to keep a rolling production line on the go, to be timed form wort production
to conditioning that you are never short of a few beers, and that epuipment will be buit up over a period to spread
the costs over time so that eventually they will pay for themselves the more beer you brew and whose quality will
improve to my satisfaction at the same time.
Daft question time
Stock pot what size is best for the standard fermentation bin of 25 litres? recommended stockist? or just google it?
do thes come drilled or fitted with a heater or is a gas burner a better way to go?
Gas burners any recommended types? or cobble one up from a camping stove or knackered barbie or just google it?
Many thanks for the help, I am hope to start my first BIAB in a few weeks time so I can get thing ready and do a blog
like I did with my kit. http://bigdonk117.wordpress.com/
I can see where you are coming from regarding ingredients on the cost front.
I Have just brought Graham Wheelers book, Brew your Own British Real Ale as recommended
by Runwell-Steve. So i am just getting to grips with methods,terminology etc so for the me kit based
route is ideal for me as I then can see what things are and follow instructions, so then I can slowly grasp it all
even if simple it maybe to most, there is always that step in the dark to find a system or method that
as you say suits my situation,plus I now have the added bonus of asking daft questions on here, as always keep
my other half happy and not have to store bags of ingredients and kit about the house and or the garage.
I assume the art of the home brew is to keep a rolling production line on the go, to be timed form wort production
to conditioning that you are never short of a few beers, and that epuipment will be buit up over a period to spread
the costs over time so that eventually they will pay for themselves the more beer you brew and whose quality will
improve to my satisfaction at the same time.
Daft question time
Stock pot what size is best for the standard fermentation bin of 25 litres? recommended stockist? or just google it?
do thes come drilled or fitted with a heater or is a gas burner a better way to go?
Gas burners any recommended types? or cobble one up from a camping stove or knackered barbie or just google it?
Many thanks for the help, I am hope to start my first BIAB in a few weeks time so I can get thing ready and do a blog
like I did with my kit. http://bigdonk117.wordpress.com/
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Twistedfinger
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Re: First attempt at BIAB
I use a 50L pot and can get 25L into the FV easly. My heat source is a Spiral burner like this one on page 10 in this brochure Here. It came complete with regulator and hose.
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jimp2003
Re: First attempt at BIAB
I brew outdoors and I use a 8.8kw burner that I got HERE and use propane as it performs better in the very cold conditions during the winter. I like the flexibility of gas over electric.
I bought my 50l stockpot from Malt Miller and have managed so far without any taps fitted. I am however in the process of fitting a tap to the pot to make it a bit easier to transfer the wort to the FV.
As I mentioned before you don't have to go for a big pot like mine and several of our members use a smaller pot and top up in the FV. If you have a decent hob then it is possible to boil in the kitchen, if your other half will allow it of course!
You are right about keeping a rolling schedule of production going as it is easy to suddenly find yourself short on beer, particularly as your friends will start to find excuses to come round more and more in order to sample the great beers you will be producing....
I bought my 50l stockpot from Malt Miller and have managed so far without any taps fitted. I am however in the process of fitting a tap to the pot to make it a bit easier to transfer the wort to the FV.
As I mentioned before you don't have to go for a big pot like mine and several of our members use a smaller pot and top up in the FV. If you have a decent hob then it is possible to boil in the kitchen, if your other half will allow it of course!
You are right about keeping a rolling schedule of production going as it is easy to suddenly find yourself short on beer, particularly as your friends will start to find excuses to come round more and more in order to sample the great beers you will be producing....