what do you think yes or no

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what do you think yes or no

Post by tickle » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:05 am

what do you think yes or no
just ordered a biab kit a Tetley bitter clone
was thinking of roasting the grain for about 20mins
but will cool it down before mashing
don't know if it will do anything to the taste or not

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by 6470zzy » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:47 am

In a word......no :mrgreen:
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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by Kev888 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:34 pm

Roasting the grains will denature their enzymes - if at any appreciable temperature for any length of time. If you roasted them all you'd get very little conversion in the mash.

You could roast a small quantity of them, if the remaining grains have enough spare diastatic power. Though it would take some practice/experimentation to predict the effects at all closely. It also would no longer be like Tetley, perhaps worse if you get it wrong, perhaps better if you get it right - it may be hard to judge unless you've brewed the recipe before.
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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by Rookie » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:54 pm

What is the purpose of roasting the grains?
I'm just here for the beer.

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by WalesAles » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:15 pm

tickle,

No.

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by 6470zzy » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:17 pm

Rookie wrote:What is the purpose of roasting the grains?
Sounds as though he was wanting to experiment with the taste :-k

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by tickle » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:52 pm

6470zzy wrote:
Rookie wrote:What is the purpose of roasting the grains?
Sounds as though he was wanting to experiment with the taste :-k

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that's right just wanted to try it out

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by Fil » Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:55 pm

imho best thing you could do to a tetleys kit is embellish the hell out of it. Its hard to believe they can use grains and hops and create such an awful beer from it and manage to sell it too??? tho i only ever saw it sold in the north east along with vaux offerings, I switched to bottled beers for a few years while living in tetleys country.

but if your a fan of the brew perhaps it may be best to brew the kit as recommended for the first brew, and save tweaks for subsiquent brews when you know what your after effecting a slight change in..

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by WalesAles » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:09 pm

tickle wrote:
6470zzy wrote:
Rookie wrote:What is the purpose of roasting the grains?
Sounds as though he was wanting to experiment with the taste :-k

Cheers
that's right just wanted to try it out
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Do it! :D
Please report back on your results. It will be beneficial (or not) for the rest of us to decide to follow you on the roasting thingy! =D>
And it will save me from doing something stupid again! #-o

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by rpt » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:52 am

When I moved up north to Yorkshire 20ish years ago I drank hand pulled Tetley and it was gorgeous. It didn't have to travel very far from the brewery. Of course it was nothing like the modern nitro shite. It's still available on cask but it ain't from Yorkshire. As long as the kit is for the original beer then it's a good pint. But I wouldn't roast the grain.

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by BrannigansLove » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:19 pm

Nothing wrong with lightly roasting a cup or so of the grain, but leave the bulk of it as is. As Kev explained, you will denature the enzymes, and just end up with unfermentable starchy soup.

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by tickle » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:27 am

well I went a head and did 200g of the grain mix its in the fv now
so got about 6-7 weeks before I know how it turned out

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Re: what do you think yes or no

Post by Jim my » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:22 pm

I'm just fermenting an ale where I have toasted some Maris otter, about 180C for 15 mins. I tasted a few grains after and it put me in mind of biscuit malt.
It was only a small percentage of the grain bill as you can see.

9.13 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 89.5 %
0.40 kg Corn, Flaked (2.6 EBC) Grain 2 3.9 %
0.37 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 3 3.6 %
0.31 kg Toasted Malt (53.2 EBC) Grain 4 3.0 %

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