Carbonation Keg lid

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Carbonation Keg lid

Post by gr_baker » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:10 pm

Hi,

has anyone on here used one of these? https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product ... ion-stone/

What was your experience? Was it worth buying?

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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by MonsieurBadgerCheese » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:35 am

Isn't it the same as connecting the gas to the 'Out" post to force carbonate?

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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by gr_baker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:27 am

Not quite. There's an air stone on the end of the pipe. It will diffuse the gas into the beer faster. Or that's the idea anyway. I wondered if it actually works

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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by Jim » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:30 am

Why not buy an airstone, a length of gas tubing and attach it to the gas tube on your existing cornie lid? I'm sure that'll come to a lot less than £27.
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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by gr_baker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:38 am

Would that work when applying gas for serving. I'm wondering if some of the serving gas would tend to dissolve into the beer and over carbonate it.

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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by Jim » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:20 am

gr_baker wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:38 am
Would that work when applying gas for serving. I'm wondering if some of the serving gas would tend to dissolve into the beer and over carbonate it.
Well with the linked device you'd still have to change to the normal lid for serving, so if doing what I suggested just open it and take off the tube and remove stone and tube for serving.
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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by gr_baker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:01 am

I think you could leave the carbonation lid on and use the normal gas input for serving. But I take your point that you probably wouldn't want to.

I'm not that familiar with the internals of the keg, could you get a gas line onto the inside of the input and off again without dipping your hands in the beer?

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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by Jim » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:39 am

gr_baker wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:01 am
I think you could leave the carbonation lid on and use the normal gas input for serving. But I take your point that you probably wouldn't want to.
You'd need to reattach the gas bottle every few pints as the pressure would drop and you'd get no beer out.
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I'm not that familiar with the internals of the keg, could you get a gas line onto the inside of the input and off again without dipping your hands in the beer?
Best way would be to take off the lid and withdraw the tube/stone assembly altogether, remove tube and replace the lid.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see the point of that product at all - I suppose if you were desperate to get some beer carbonated very quickly and didn't mind paying 27 quid for the privilege it might help. But most people would just inject gas into the normal gas in, roll the keg, and repeat a few times.
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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by gr_baker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:08 pm

How long does it take to carbonate your beer doing that, Jim? I'm pretty new to kegging and it takes about 7 days of gassing it, leaving to absorb, gassing again etc for me.

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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by Jim » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:28 pm

gr_baker wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:08 pm
How long does it take to carbonate your beer doing that, Jim? I'm pretty new to kegging and it takes about 7 days of gassing it, leaving to absorb, gassing again etc for me.
I've never done it myself, but I believe you can do it in a few hours as long as you chill the keg.

Here's a how-to link from oz. - https://brewerschoice.com.au/keg-gassin ... rbonation/
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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by MonsieurBadgerCheese » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:48 am

You can do it a lot quicker than that if you're really in a hurry. Here are the instructions I found a while back, which seem to work pretty well.
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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by Fil » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:15 am

It may well condition a beer with co2 a little quicker but i would question if said beers would be fully mature and ready to quaff without at least the usual week or so of conditioning in the keg.
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Re: Carbonation Keg lid

Post by MonsieurBadgerCheese » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:44 am

Agreed Fil. That was purely on the subject of rapid carbonisation.

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