Spent six days in the fermenter.
Brewed with with 1KG of BKE + 400G Demerara Sugar
SG 1045 FG 1012 Sounds pretty good to me. Actually had a bit of a taste and it already tastes good... (Will the FG change at all whilst in the 500ml bottle with half a teaspoon of sugar?)
It's my birthday next Friday. I meant to brew this kit a week earlier so it would be ready in time. Will it be ok to break open a couple (just a couple) after a week in the bottle?
Just bottled my first EDME stout
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brysie
Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
hi xpers
ive only done coopers stout so far. i use more dsm in mine and find that it tastes good almost as soon as i bottle it.
that said, i think youre supposed to leave it for 1 week for every 10 sg points drop, so 3 0r 4 weeks minimum.
the priming sugar will make a tiny difference to the abv but not much.
my rule of thumb is `if it tastes good, then drink it!`
ive only done coopers stout so far. i use more dsm in mine and find that it tastes good almost as soon as i bottle it.
that said, i think youre supposed to leave it for 1 week for every 10 sg points drop, so 3 0r 4 weeks minimum.
the priming sugar will make a tiny difference to the abv but not much.
my rule of thumb is `if it tastes good, then drink it!`
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cwrw gwent
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Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
I've made Edme Dry Irish Stout on a number of occasions and each time it has resulted in a superb, smooth, strong tasty brew, but only after two months in the bottle.
Having said that, Brysie is correct in saying if it tastes good, drink it. Break open a bottle later in the week and have a sample. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and after all, if it is significantly less than wonderful you've only wasted one pint.
I'd be more concerned about the amount of sugar/fermentable stuff you've used as it may adversely affect the malt/hop balance.
Good luck and happy birthday for next Friday. Let us know how you get on.
Having said that, Brysie is correct in saying if it tastes good, drink it. Break open a bottle later in the week and have a sample. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and after all, if it is significantly less than wonderful you've only wasted one pint.
I'd be more concerned about the amount of sugar/fermentable stuff you've used as it may adversely affect the malt/hop balance.
Good luck and happy birthday for next Friday. Let us know how you get on.
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Hoodlum
Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
i've found this stout to be remarkably tasty straight out of the FV!
Currently have a 3 month old corny half full of it - bloomin' lovely too. I also used DME
Currently have a 3 month old corny half full of it - bloomin' lovely too. I also used DME
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xpers
Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
The amount I used was based on something I read on a post on this forum with regards using BKE. It said that as a rough rule if a kit specifies 1KG of sugar but you use BKE instead, you should add 300-400G of sugar also to maintain the ABV. The reason being that 1KG of BKE contains less fermentables than 1KG of sugar.cwrw gwent wrote:
I'd be more concerned about the amount of sugar/fermentable stuff you've used as it may adversely affect the malt/hop balance.
Have I got this all wrong?
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cwrw gwent
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Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
Hi Xpers,
My understanding is that dry beerkit enhancer is substituted weight for weight for the amount of Tate & Lyle that the kit instructions specify. BKE provides more body and flavour but a slightly lower (not sure how much) alcohol content because Tate & Lyle ferments more completely. It seems to me that 300 to 400 grams of sucrose will certainly bump up the ABV. Maybe some of the chemists on this forum can tell us by how much.
I like my ale/stout with a medium body, a fair bit of hop character and a modest gravity so I usually use 500 grams of hopped spraymalt and 500 grams sucrose per kit. EDME stout is a fairly robust kit though with a good body and bitterness so it will probably handle the extra sugar without too much trouble.
The acid test for your stout is to test it when it has matured. If you like what you taste it is a success.
My understanding is that dry beerkit enhancer is substituted weight for weight for the amount of Tate & Lyle that the kit instructions specify. BKE provides more body and flavour but a slightly lower (not sure how much) alcohol content because Tate & Lyle ferments more completely. It seems to me that 300 to 400 grams of sucrose will certainly bump up the ABV. Maybe some of the chemists on this forum can tell us by how much.
I like my ale/stout with a medium body, a fair bit of hop character and a modest gravity so I usually use 500 grams of hopped spraymalt and 500 grams sucrose per kit. EDME stout is a fairly robust kit though with a good body and bitterness so it will probably handle the extra sugar without too much trouble.
The acid test for your stout is to test it when it has matured. If you like what you taste it is a success.
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Barm
Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
hey xpers -
I too have just started with my first crack at EDME stout (courtesy of our old mate Mr Wilko). Did a Blackrock kit a couple of years back that was real nice, so eager to see how this one turns out. No Coopers available locally.......
I went for 500g extra-dark spraymalt, 500g BKE and 200g raw cane sugar. Plus 15g Northdown boiled for 30 mins. Made up to OG 1048 - final length a little over 20L.
In similar fashion to the "Quatermass Coopers" mentioned in other threads - it blew the lid off the FV overnight.....
Gonna keg it (partially since I just swapped my plain CO2 cylinder for G-mix).....With that in mind - has anyone got a view on priming sugars? I'm with Ditch inasmuch as agreeing that stout should not come with throatbite: so am wondering whether to reduce the priming sugars or even (Ditch-like) skip them altogether on the basis that I'm looking for condition but not much carbonation. I'm using the widget system, so can control keg pressure quite closely thanks to the pressure gauge and control handle - maybe the G-mix alone could do the business??
Thoughts welcome on this: especially as I bottled my previous stout primed at the normal rate - it poured like coca-cola.......
I too have just started with my first crack at EDME stout (courtesy of our old mate Mr Wilko). Did a Blackrock kit a couple of years back that was real nice, so eager to see how this one turns out. No Coopers available locally.......
I went for 500g extra-dark spraymalt, 500g BKE and 200g raw cane sugar. Plus 15g Northdown boiled for 30 mins. Made up to OG 1048 - final length a little over 20L.
In similar fashion to the "Quatermass Coopers" mentioned in other threads - it blew the lid off the FV overnight.....
Gonna keg it (partially since I just swapped my plain CO2 cylinder for G-mix).....With that in mind - has anyone got a view on priming sugars? I'm with Ditch inasmuch as agreeing that stout should not come with throatbite: so am wondering whether to reduce the priming sugars or even (Ditch-like) skip them altogether on the basis that I'm looking for condition but not much carbonation. I'm using the widget system, so can control keg pressure quite closely thanks to the pressure gauge and control handle - maybe the G-mix alone could do the business??
Thoughts welcome on this: especially as I bottled my previous stout primed at the normal rate - it poured like coca-cola.......
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Barm
Re: Just bottled my first EDME stout
Anyone got any experience/suggestions to offer re: priming of stout in a G-mix equipped keg?