John Smith's bitter

[frutbunn]

I want to try and turn a 5 quid Geordie kit into a John Smith's. So I thought:

Geordie Yorkshire bitter kit
500gm of the Geordie Beer Enhancer (can up this to 1kg, but don't really want that much sugar, don't have any DME left).

To add a bit of malt, darken it, and make it more creamy:
90minute mash of:

1200gm pale malt (all I have left.)
200gm flaked barley (to make it more creamy and bulk out the pale malt.)
100gm wheat malt (to help with head retention + bulk out the pale malt a bit.)
100gm crystal malt (should I add more? Or remove it?)
150gm chocolate malt (A bit more do you think? The Geordie Yorkshire is quite light if I remember rightly.)

30 minute boil of the above malts with 20g Golding in about 6 litres of liquid - but can go as high as 14 litres for the boil if needs be.

I also have some flaked maize, and can up the flaked barley if needs be, but I am not sure how much adjuncts I can safely add at maximum. I assume this is around the 20% mark?

So, what do you guys think? Do you think it will turn out like John Smith's?

[norman]

Don't think so,John Smiths beers are mostly Pale Malt Black Malt(1%)and a whopping amount of SUGAR(15%) Target hops are used.

[frutbunn]

Don't think so,John Smiths beers are mostly Pale Malt Black Malt(1%)

Hmmm, don't know if that would work with the Geordie Yorkshire kit though. It's quite sweet if I remember.

and a whopping amount of SUGAR(15%)

Maybe I should use the whole bag of BKE then!

If I can get something that just 'looks' like a John Smith's. Then that will be close enough!

[bettyswallocks]

Should be ok, just call it Ron Smiths!

[frutbunn]

Should be ok, just call it Ron Smiths!

<HOMER>Mmmmm....</HOMER> Ron Smiths! Now with added sugar!