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andyp
first question
Very interesting following the various topics. So, my first queery - it occurs to me that rather than adding sugar or even spray malts to kits, to just ferment the malt with 20 - 25 pints of water, maybe varying the yeast and additional hops a bit. Any issues with that?
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andyp
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Chris The Fish
Seems like an extract brew if you ask me.andyp wrote:Seem like an idea?
If you substitue the kit for malt extract then you need to do a far longer boil, after all you are just skipping out the mashing stage of an AG brew.
have a butchers about in the extract forum if thats the way you want to go with your brewing.
hope this helps
CTF
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andyp
Ta C T F. In time maybe but note the signature at the bottom. I've a, carefully followed the instructions, Wherry that's ripening (rehydrate the yeast @40?) tho I'm not allowing myself to touch it till Oct. Now I fancy starting to fiddle.
So I'm thinking a good basic malt (that John Bull Maris Otter looks promising) then variations around that. But still no boil.
Then in time maybe...
So I'm thinking a good basic malt (that John Bull Maris Otter looks promising) then variations around that. But still no boil.
Then in time maybe...
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andyp
mmmmmmm, OK maybe I need a rethink. I suppose I'm just thinking of a kit modification. The malt tin you get with a kit seemed pretty much the same as, say, a 1.6Kg tin of John Bull extract but maybe there are differences such as the need to boil. I've not really got the option to be boiling gallons of liquid. What are the implications if I just go ahead without the boil anyway?
I might try a smaller DME version. A pkt of 500gms boiled in 6-8 pints to make a gallon total perhaps. I know you're gonna point to extract recipies and procedures and I have been avidly reading this forum and other sites for a few weeks but I need to start off slowly.
Cheers
I might try a smaller DME version. A pkt of 500gms boiled in 6-8 pints to make a gallon total perhaps. I know you're gonna point to extract recipies and procedures and I have been avidly reading this forum and other sites for a few weeks but I need to start off slowly.
Cheers
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Chris The Fish
If this is the case id advise that you do kits for a while, it gives you the knowhow with regards to yeast, sterilisation, bottling/kegging and also what flavours your looking for in a beer.andyp wrote:I know you're gonna point to extract recipies and procedures and I have been avidly reading this forum and other sites for a few weeks but I need to start off slowly.
Cheers
You can still play around with these kits, ive been doing it for a while now and ive found that im far more confident about different elements of the brewing process - without the long winded AG or Extract approach (ill move into these myself when time permits).
Get yourself some stout/bitter/IPA/export kits and throw in your hops in different varieties, at different times etc, or use spray malt, or candy sugar, or honey or what ever you want -you wont be disapointed with the results.
Most of all enjoy what your doing and enjoy the results, im a big kit fan and when you get them right they whoop the ass of some AG brews
CTF
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andyp
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nicktherockstar
something I do is use the wonderfull brupacks flavapacks
they are basically hops and grains in large teabag type things, depending what effect I am after from them I boil/steep them and add to the kit
I tend to melt the kit down with water in my brew pan and then stick the bags in for 10-15 mins while it simmers (not boils) and so far it seems to have provided GREAT results.
a word of warning though, I have found if/when a kit with water and maybe more malt does reach the boil it expands quicker than you can react to it, first time i lost about 1/4 of a kit all over the kitchen and quite badly burned myself in the process.
they are basically hops and grains in large teabag type things, depending what effect I am after from them I boil/steep them and add to the kit
I tend to melt the kit down with water in my brew pan and then stick the bags in for 10-15 mins while it simmers (not boils) and so far it seems to have provided GREAT results.
a word of warning though, I have found if/when a kit with water and maybe more malt does reach the boil it expands quicker than you can react to it, first time i lost about 1/4 of a kit all over the kitchen and quite badly burned myself in the process.
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Beatnik69
