Cooper stout kit

[shazza]

I defer the answer to this question to my honourable collegue Mr.Ditch....................

[Ditch]

How does the end result of coopers stout compare to Guiness or Murphys?

I defer the answer to this question to my honourable collegue Mr.Ditch....................

Shazza, ye just hoping to provoke something 'Emotional', aren't ye?!

Georgy; 'Murphys' I really wouldn't know about. I've honestly only had about two pints in my life. And that was decades ago, in an english " Irish Pub ".

'Guinness'? I've seen it said, on here, that Coopers were trying to recreate Guinness when they made their Stout. I'm eternally grateful that they have 'failed miserably' in that endeavour. They look almost identical, in the glass. That's about as close as they get.

Beyond that? Guinness is Guinness is Guinness. 99% of what I can source, round here, is the same old same old. Precision engineered to be the same as the other ten pubs serving the sameness ..... I could go on. But, I don't want to. I'm bored already.

Coopers Stout?!? Listen; I'm on the Jameson right now. I'd love to write ye a little 'story'. But, I might get a Bad reputation! So, I'll have to rely on ye to use ye own imagination and write it yeself, in the privacy of ye own head. K? Hints are; It involves an Angel. Female one. Sixteen years old and untouched ..... Her mouth. Your tongue .......... Bingo! Now we're talking! THAT'S Coopers Stout!

[shazza]

'nuff a da peedo imagery;here is the science:Cooper's Stout IS based on an Irish Stout recipe,just not any Irish stout available today....................Once upon a time (as recently as the late 80s/early 90s)we had three distinctive stouts in the country:Guinness,Murphy and Beamish.(I was also aware of Mackeson but this was just a lactose heavy dark ale masquerading as stout).The bottled equivalents of the Big Three had their own distinctive characteristics but for the purposes of this dissertation I'll stick to the draughts:Murphy,Cork brewed,was light ,refreshing,low in hop bitterness and had a loyal following in the south-western counties of Ireland.Guinness,Dublin brewed,was a maltier,hoppier beer with a creamy-coloured (as opposed to Murphy's white)head.Then there was Beamish....also Cork brewed ,also with a white head but here the similarities ended;it was medium to heavy bodied(like Guinness),its malts had been roasted to a chocolate nuttiness that was completely different to the other two stouts and its hop aroma was gentle and seductive.jazuz t'was lovely.then some corporate dickhead changed the recipe (early 90s) and a great stout was gone forever...............UNTIL NOW...........COOPER'S STOUT is the New Beamish.Praise the lord and pass the tankards.

[johnston]

Maybe a daft question but is there any other commercially available stouts except guiness, murphys or the real cheap and nasty stuff in my local offies in a rip off guiness tin??

[Georgy]

Maybe a daft question but is there any other commercially available stouts except guiness, murphys or the real cheap and nasty stuff in my local offies in a rip off guiness tin??

This is the thing, I have only had guiness and murphys. There has been stout at the Norwich Beer Festival before but i've never tried it I dont think.

I know it may be a satanic thing to say, but I like guiness! so didnt want to buy a stout kit and it end up being like treacle!

[johnston]

This is the thing, I have only had guiness and murphys. There has been stout at the Norwich Beer Festival before but i've never tried it I dont think.

I'm the same. But what is in the back of my head is coopers do a stout and a Irish stout so I'm assuming an English stout tastes different

[cwrw gwent]

Johnson wrote "Maybe a daft question but are there any other commercially available stouts except guiness, murphys or the real cheap and nasty stuff in my local offies in a rip off guiness tin?"

Lots of them. Try your local Sainsburys and look for bottle-conditioned (bottles with yeast sediment in the bottom) Titanic Stout. Dorothy Goodbody's Wholesome Stout, also bottle-conditioned, is superb. Buy a bottle of Guinness Foreign Extra Stout. It's very powerful at 7.5% but very moreish. Bottled standard Guinness (the 4% stuff) in the UK was bottle-conditioned until the mid 90s when they converted it to a filtered, pasteurised beer. I have had bottle-conditioned Guinness in Ireland since then but I couldn't find it when I was last there in 2007.

Some smaller breweries produce their own keg stout. Felinfoel in Llanelli is one of the best. Search the web for your nearest source. About 15 years ago, Scottish & Newcastle did a wonderful stout called Gillespies but it did'nt take off.

[johnston]

Maybe shoulda mentioned I'm in northern Ireland, getting some of the ales you's boys talk about can be awkward never mind a none irish stout

[Ditch]

COOPER'S STOUT is the New Beamish.

Interesting. I'm damn sure someone on here once said they gave their wifes mate a taste of Coopers. This female took one sip and declared it " Like Beamish "!

I'm sure it was Beamish. Not Murphys


PS. Get a grip. I was sixteen myself at the time

Funnily enough; Her name was Cooper!

[tubthumper]

I think its finshed fermenting now bubbles of gas every 3 mins and a reading of 1010 . i just got abottle tree so i can get ready for bottling it tonight, i decided to re read a bit about bottling befor i went ahead in both of graham whelleers books for camra and found he suggest that it is casked first to mature before it is bottled. i am not suggesting this is wrong but have any of you coopers stout brewers just bottled from the FV via a bottling bucket first and was it just as good as maturing in the cask first. i dont want to make this take much longer than nessesary as it tasted good when i drank the stuff that was taken for a reading.

[manc73]

I've just done my first coopers stout kit which I made with a kilo of dark spray malt.
It took 13days to get it down to 1010 . I bottled mine yesterday straight from the fv into litre bottles primed with a teaspoon of sugar. Bit worried that because it was in the fv for so long and came out so clear that it may not prime properly. Any ideas anyone? Thanks.

[CrownCap]

You should be fine there, doesn't take much yeast to add a bit of carbonation. Assuming you used PET bottles you should be able to tell after a week or so if they're firming up. Can always add a few grains of dried yeast later if for some reason it doesn't work.

[manc73]

Cheers for that cc.

[Ditch]

Thirteen Days?! Are you fermenting it in a fridge?

[EoinMag]

Don't worry, there will still be enough yeast in there to prime it, unless you were to filter it. My brews are typically 25-30 days in the fermenter.