Using Saflager S23 yeast with Coopers Lager Kit

[Manx Guy]

Hi Darren

the yeast will settle out in either a bottle or barrel... Whilst you need some for the second fermenation (for carbonation & conditioning) too much might affect the flavour...

my concern is that the first few bottle s wil lhave more yeast from the sediment....

I think most people work on a rule of 8g of sugar per litre so two flat teaspoons should do the trick!

but as some people dont like too much fizz its a case of personal choice.



I did a TC a while back and i just primed it with 20ml of AJ in each 500ml bottle... it had plenty of fizz!!!

[darran]

thank you manx

[Manx Guy]

No worries!

In the end I went for bulk priming with 200g sugar...

bottles are almost clear already!

just slightly cloudy inthe bottom third...



Slainte!

[garwatts]

No worries!

In the end I went for bulk priming with 200g sugar...

bottles are almost clear already!

just slightly cloudy inthe bottom third...



Slainte!

Err just remind me how many litres did you make

[darran]

guys i put beer brite in to my beer to clear it bofre i keg it but it dont look to good now its kinda looks curdled at the very top

[darran]

oh iv put the bottles out side how long will they take to clear the very top is crystal clear but the rest is still cloudy and hazy oh its lager im doing

[garwatts]

guys i put beer brite in to my beer to clear it bofre i keg it but it dont look to good now its kinda looks curdled at the very top

I find that just a bit of patience works for me

[Manx Guy]

Hi!

Garwats it was a 23l brew.... I added 25% extra on top of what is suggested (160g) in the instructions.... I know about 80g for a 23litre brew is normal for ales...
As the beer is to be stored at 5-8C I dont forsee any over cartbonation issues....

do you think otherwise?

Guy

[darran]

so if i leave it a few weeks it should dettle down ??

[garwatts]

Hi!

Garwats it was a 23l brew.... I added 25% extra on top of what is suggested (160g) in the instructions.... I know about 80g for a 23litre brew is normal for ales...
As the beer is to be stored at 5-8C I dont forsee any over cartbonation issues....

do you think otherwise?

Guy

Personally I would have gone for 80g but as you say it's going to be kept cold then you may be OK....I'm sure it will clear given time. Mine was slow but had a couple tonight (well OK maybe more ) and it's crystal clear now

[darran]

is TC and the KLIJU hing ment to be clear or cloudy my kliju tastes fine like a lemon shnapps

the tc is very crisp almost like a sharp normal apple juice with added omph but again its cloudy

iv put both brews into 4 * 750ml irn brew glass bottles

[Manx Guy]

Hi!

FWIW I didnt bottle my TC until it was almost clear....

If you used pectolase it should clear in the bottles, but you'll have to be careful not to disturb the sediment....

Leave them somewhere cool for about 2 weeks and you should see that they clear just fine....

[darran]

shi t iv bottled it and its still cloudy it taste lovley

my lager is clearing from the top lovley too it out side and is looking fine

manx whats pectolase is it like beer bright

ta darran


if there is still alot of sediment could i rack it again in a week, manx im in glasgow would an outside shed be to cold for lagering and well cidering , and do you have any tips on kliju or what ever its called

[Manx Guy]

Good morning Darran!


pectolase is an enzyme that can be added to wine and TC to help clear it. it works by breaking down the pectin in the fruit... Apples have loads of pectin and it can casue that cloudyness seen in scrumpy etc. You can get it from most HBS for about £3-5.00

Glad to hear your lager is clearing nicely.... if you are keeping it outside make sure its out of sunlight... even in winter it could effect your beer causing off flavours!

TC can be drunk young or after a little aging...if you like the taste why not enjoy it and try racking it a few time on your next batch... racking is a method used by people to clear wine and TC try searching it on this forum for a method etc.

I make a simple TC during the summer months for drinking at BBQs, music festivals etc... I rack it twice and use pectolayse and this makes a clear fizzy dry cider...

I no longer brew ales in summer after a few poor results... I tend now to brew enough upto April and then start again late Sept. early Oct...
This is becasue it can be too warm to be able to kep the temprature stable and also due to the increased risk of infection.

With TC this isnt so much of a problem as it ferments fine in the 20-25C range and ferments so damn quick infection is less of an issue (at least in my experience)

I took 2x5litres of TC to T in the park this year (July) and now my wife Claire is 5 months pregnant! so beware !!
lol

So enjoy this batch of TC and try another using a slightly different method... you could try to do it in small batches and find a way that you like best....

Good luck mate!

[darran]

manx ta very much ill age the tc for a week or so ans try and get some pectolas

hope the missus and her pregnancy is all fine iv got 3 girls and one more due in may , i must be mad


regards darran