Which sugar should I use for my first attempt?

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joebongo

Which sugar should I use for my first attempt?

Post by joebongo » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:10 am

Hi,

I got a Young's kit on cheap and this will be my first foray into brews.

The instructions recommend using brewer's sugar or if not, normal sugar.

I think I have worked out that the brewer's sugar is glucose, but my question is will it make any difference to the end product?

I'm not expecting the world's finest beer from my first kit, and not from a starter box like this, but to get something drinkable would be a good success for me.

Cheers,

Joe.

PS: Know any shops for homebrew in the west Essex area? Harlow, Epping etc?

delboy

Post by delboy » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:24 am

I'd say neither ditch the sugar and instead use 1Kg of dried malt extract, it will be more expensive but it'll produce a much superior end result than anything brewed with sugar (cane sugar or brewing sugar/glucose).

Hope it turns out well for you.

PS Almost forgot the standard advice for someone doing there first brew, get yourself some campden tablets from your LHBS cut one in half, crush it and mix it into the water you are going to use for brewing before you add the kit or dried malt extract to it. It removes the chemicals (chlorine/chloroamine) that the water companies put into tap water to kill bacteria, if you don't remove these they will react with componds in your kit/malt extract and leave you with a beer that tastes of TCP (yuck).

joebongo

Post by joebongo » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:44 am

Thanks for the tip. No mention of Campdens in the blurb!

I'm hoping the Boot's where I'm off to this afternoon will sell the required items. They used to do a little bit of brew supplies so if I'm lucky I can crack on tonight!

Joe

Doughboy

Post by Doughboy » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:03 am

Hi,

Id also add, that if you have access to a Wilkinson store in your area, this will probably do homebrew supplies although limited....its a good start.

Hope yer 1st brew go's well...

Doughboy

delboy

Post by delboy » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:10 am

joebongo wrote:Thanks for the tip. No mention of Campdens in the blurb!

I'm hoping the Boot's where I'm off to this afternoon will sell the required items. They used to do a little bit of brew supplies so if I'm lucky I can crack on tonight!

Joe
I think boots gave up on homebrew stuff quite some time ago, as has been said you could give wilkos a go or do a quick internet search for a homebrew shop in your area or ask on here?

BTW the blurb on a beer kit is next to useless, if you follow the instructions (destructions :lol: should i say) you'll end up with a watery, ciderery phenolic soup.
The good people of Jimsbeerkit will keep you on the straight and narrow though :D

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:26 am

Wilkos doesn't do plain spray malt but they do have beer kit enhancer which is the next best thing, its basically 75% spray malt and 25% brewers sugar. I'm not sure of the exact ratio but it's something like that. it worked pretty well for my John Bull Bitter.

shepp

Post by shepp » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:26 pm

If you read the packet of Geordie beer enhancer, it shows the ingredient list with spray malt first followed by glucose. If it works out the same as other ingredient lists on the back of foods then it's the ingredient of the greater amount first working down.
I would say it's 51% spraymalt and 49% glucose, a bargain really at three quid 30 for 1kg
Are many people on here CAMRA (KS)
I let my membership run out last year, probably join again for the magazines they send out.
Shepp

PMH0810

Post by PMH0810 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:05 pm

Doughboy wrote:Hi,

Id also add, that if you have access to a Wilkinson store in your area, this will probably do homebrew supplies although limited....its a good start.

Hope yer 1st brew go's well...

Doughboy
My Wilkinson's (Colchester) has dropped the Home Brew section; "no call for it".

I'm calling for it!

Like Doughboy, all the best for the first brew - I've not looked back!

sparky Paul

Post by sparky Paul » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:13 pm

shepp wrote:If you read the packet of Geordie beer enhancer, it shows the ingredient list with spray malt first followed by glucose. If it works out the same as other ingredient lists on the back of foods then it's the ingredient of the greater amount first working down.
That's a legal requirement.

I think your guess of 51/49 won't be far off.

MightyMouth

Post by MightyMouth » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:48 pm

I really wasn't sure what the ratio was I was just guessing, in any case it worked pretty well. :D

CyberPaddy66

Post by CyberPaddy66 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:58 pm

PMH0810 wrote:
Doughboy wrote:Hi,

Id also add, that if you have access to a Wilkinson store in your area, this will probably do homebrew supplies although limited....its a good start.

Hope yer 1st brew go's well...

Doughboy
My Wilkinson's (Colchester) has dropped the Home Brew section; "no call for it".

I'm calling for it!

Like Doughboy, all the best for the first brew - I've not looked back!
If you order on-line from Wilkinsons PLUS you can have stuff delivered to your local Wilko's without any delivery charge :wink:

Redbloke

Post by Redbloke » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:53 pm

joebongo wrote:Thanks for the tip. No mention of Campdens in the blurb!


Joe, if you want some great tips on making kits then have a look at Daab's excellent instructional site - http://www.18000feet.com/how/kittips.htm

PMH0810

Post by PMH0810 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:57 pm

CyberPaddy66 wrote:If you order on-line from Wilkinsons PLUS you can have stuff delivered to your local Wilko's without any delivery charge :wink:
Bargain! Thanks for the tip; cheap brewing ahead! How doe the geordie beer stack up against others?

CyberPaddy66

Post by CyberPaddy66 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:08 pm

I did a Geordie and Youngs bitter side by side comparison a while back and the Geordie had a nicer flavour (slightly hoppy) than the youngs.

All in all I'm suitably impressed with the Geordie kits, the Mild is going to become my standard kit for experimenting :wink:

joebongo

Post by joebongo » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:22 pm

Thanks for the pointers chaps.

I haven't done it yet as I want to put together a Noddy style step be step guide that incorporates the printed instructions and the wisdom of the brewers here and on the other sites with tips and tricks.

Should have a 1st draft (no pun intended) mid next week cos of work. When reviewed and agreed by you lot, I'll get it attached or mirrored somewhere and then, and only then, will I commence Operation Firstbrew. :lol:

Cheers,

Joe

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