second FV/bottling bucket

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mchansen

second FV/bottling bucket

Post by mchansen » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:54 pm

Hi

Why use a second FV/bottling bucket, and is that a normal FV bucket or a pressure barrel :oops:

Damfoose

Post by Damfoose » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:22 pm

May I direct you towards This as it has pictures as well so should be able to answer your question much better than me.

But from all the stuff I have read so far the botteling bucket is just another FV with a tap that will take a hose and bottler attachment that stops the flow of beer when taken off the bottom of the bottle.

Also the reason is so you can mix in the extra sugar used to gas the bottle and you have less chance of sucking in more of the sedement from the original FV. This is if what I have read is correct.[/url]

Ska_J

Post by Ska_J » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:06 am

A secondary fv is used differently from a bottling bucket. Secondary fermentation is when the yeast has finished the bulk of its work converting the sugar to alcohol and then starts removing some of the things that we don't want in there (diacetyl, acetylaldehyde, and some sulphur compounds I believe). With just a primary fv this process will begin while the beer is in there (and then presumably continue in the bottles or whatever the beer gets moved to) but it can help the flavour to move the beer off the debris at the bottom to continue with its secondary fermentation. I believe its also possible to 'dry hop' at this stage (I've no experience of this as yet, my beer goes straight from my fv to bottles via the bottling bucket).

Hope this helps

J

maxashton

Post by maxashton » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:24 am

I fully endorse the above comments, and reccomend everyone have a pint to celebrate.

Best reason to put a beer in a secondary fermenter is to get it off the yeast cake, as Ska said. If you leave the beer on the yeast cake too long your yeast may start to autolyse (kill itself), and produce some spectacularly terrible flavours. This being said, i've never had this happen to me, and use secondary fermentation only to allow the beer to drop bright... i don't use finings.

mchansen

Post by mchansen » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:20 am

I think I now understand the use of a bottling bucket.

Thanks again

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Post by Norik » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:14 pm

How long is it best to leave the brew in the Bottling Bucket?
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I must drink the Beer.
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Beer is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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maxashton

Post by maxashton » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:00 pm

As long as it takes you to get it from the bottling bucket to the bottle. No longer!

Secondary fermentation on the other hand you could leave for one week for every 10 points of OG.
ie, 1040 OG = 4 weeks. Or until it drops bright.

Bottling buckets are just a convenient way of bulk dosing sugar.

Ta

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