Woodfordes Headcracker help

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Woodfordes Headcracker help

Post by dph » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:36 pm

Pitched the yeast Weds 15th.

Has been at 1030 for the last two days. Temperature is down to about 16c during the day. There si a very light covering of bubbles/froth on the surface.

I am planning to transfer to a secondary for a week before bottling to help with the conditioning.

Has fermentation stalled?

Any advice gratefully received.

Thanks guys.

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:48 pm

What was your OG?
Do you have a layer of slurry at the bottom?

It is very likely that it has stalled due to low temperatures. If you can keep it in a warm room, I would gently stir the slurry up with a sanitized spoon (gently to avoid introducing oxygen)

dph

Post by dph » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:06 pm

OG was 1051 at 59c

A book I have gives a temperature adjustment factor of x2 = 1102 which seems huge.

Looking on http://winemakingjournal.com/charts/hydro2
suggests adding 15.4 = 1066.4 which seems much more sensible.

And yes there is a layer at the bottom

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:40 pm

Why have you got such a high temperature for your OG? Kits in general are no boil which means you should have a pitching temp almost immediately....

Dunno where the book comes up with the idea of doubling, but the other value is correct for a temp adjustment. My calc works out your OG to be 1.066

With an OG like this, I would expect you to get a FG of around 1.020 - 1.016 which would give you 4.74% - 5.09% ABV

It seems it is either too cold for you yeast so it has gone into hibernation or you have a stuck ferment. I would go for it being too cold myself....

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:44 pm

What temperature did you pitch the yeast at? Was it too warm?

PieOPah is probably right though. It's too cold now for the yeast.

dph

Post by dph » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:15 pm

Why have you got such a high temperature for your OG?
misread the cold/hot quantities :oops:
Dunno where the book comes up with the idea of doubling, but the other value is correct for a temp adjustment. My calc works out your OG to be 1.066
The book is 'Beer and Brewing' by Dave Laing and John Hendra from 1977. This is the extract - is it nonesense?
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Will try and get the temperature up. Will move it form the airing cupboard to near the boiler and have some blankets for overnight.

Cheers guys.

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:30 pm

Most hydrometers are calibrated to 20C not 15C......

Use the table you got the 1.066 reading from - that is acurate :)

dph

Post by dph » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:41 pm

Forgot to say, I did wait until it had got down to 25c before pitching the yeast :D

dph

Post by dph » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:15 pm

Update: Have moved it and the temp is now up at 24c - is this too warm - will be difficult to get it much lower without going too cold again.

Things do seem to be happening again as SG is down to 1022.

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:17 pm

24 is probably okay. I forget the optimum temp ranges....

You may want to try investing in a brew belt. This is basically a belt you wrap around your fermenter to keep it warm. Worth looking into :)

dph

Post by dph » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:27 pm

Yes definately going to be looking at a brew belt for the next batch.

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Post by StrangeBrew » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:25 pm

Sorry to hi-jack the tread but while your on the subject...

What are peoples preferences for heating:
1. A belt to go around the bin.
2. A pad to stand it on
3. A submersible heater inside the bin like those in an aquarium?

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:20 pm

I think that the immersion heater would be the most effective since all the heat would be transfered to you wort. Personally though I wouldn't want to use one - personal preference rather than any objection (something else to sanitize). Besides, I probably couldn't use one on my Better-Bottle.

The plate seems like a good idea since heat rises, it would also mean that heat loss should be minimum.

I have always thought about getting a belt (although the room I currently ferment in is warm enough). but thinking about it the plate would probably be better.

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Post by StrangeBrew » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:39 pm

I've read a couple of times on forums that the belt tends to run too hot and that put me off from the start.
The pad/plate does seem logical, as you say, heat rises and it covers the whole base of the bin, hopefully giving even heat distribution.
The thermo immersion heater that I now use works very well, keeps the liquid at a constant 22c. It says on the box that it will work efficiently down to an external temp of 10c. So DaaB, this should be fine in the shed as long as it doesn't fall below 10c/50f.

PieOPah

Post by PieOPah » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:58 am

StrangeBrew wrote:It says on the box that it will work efficiently down to an external temp of 10c. So DaaB, this should be fine in the shed as long as it doesn't fall below 10c/50f.
I imagine that this winter it will get much colder than that....

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