palm sugar vs. cane sugar

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steve thailand

palm sugar vs. cane sugar

Post by steve thailand » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:05 am

hi all,

i'm ready to start on my kit, brewpacks best bitter. here in Thailand i can get cane sugar (white or brown) and palm sugar. my friend suggested i try palm sugar and i've seen it named in a few recipes but idea about its use in a traditional English bitter? what will it do to the taste vs. normal sugar

if i use palm sugar, what do you think will be the equivalent to 1kg of cane sugar?

thx steve

moobli

Re: palm sugar vs. cane sugar

Post by moobli » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:47 pm

totally out of my depth
but look at what we process
why not do half and half
ive just primed half my geordie lager with brown suger
and its superb

what feels right
go kg to kg of cane
and wait see what happens



diff water and diff temps

mshergold

Re: palm sugar vs. cane sugar

Post by mshergold » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:46 pm

I guess it would boil down to how fermentable the sugar is. I don't know if this would work (I'm sure someone here would know) If you have time, a hydrometer and if you can get hold of some spare yeast, maybe you could experiment? Here's a thread about a Finnish drink called kilju:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=25629&hilit=finnish

which is sugar water. Maybe make a small quantity with regular sugar and the same quantity with palm sugar and see what happens. Perhaps even bread yeast would be sufficient to find out how fermentable it is. If you do decide to use it, I hope it doesn't turn out like the Belgian beer Palm which tastes to my mind how durian smells!

For those not familiar with palm sugar, it's made from the sap of a tree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_sugar

I've used it in Asian food and for anyone who is unfamiliar with it, it does seem very sweet but I find it to be a bit of a PITA to use as it tends to come in blocks rather than powdered or granulated and it seems a bit 'damp'. Usually, I'll put a piece in a freezer bag and beat the carp out of it with a rolling pin and then use a pestle and mortar to powder it. I dare say you could use a blender to turn it into powder.

mshergold

Re: palm sugar vs. cane sugar

Post by mshergold » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:55 pm

Update:

After mentioning Palm beer, I thought I'd try to find out what's in it that gives it that 'unique' taste and came across these:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/need-he ... tc-132620/

http://www.allaboutbeer.com/homebrew/22 ... beers.html Number three

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/has-any ... out-88498/

Hope this helps.

mysterio

Re: palm sugar vs. cane sugar

Post by mysterio » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:26 pm

I would use a kilo of malt extract if you want it to taste like beer

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