substituting of sugars for hops
substituting of sugars for hops
in the initial fermentation process can i substitute some of the 1 kg of brewing sugars for 500 g of crushed Malt ie use 500g sugar and 500g crushed lager malt
im new at this game i have one brewing a european coopers lager( very little foaming and scum ring is this normall), but was wondering if as said can substitues be used instead of the 1 kg or sugar
ta guys darran
if any one has tips on lager making and recipies etc or just guidence i would be most appreiciated for all help
im new at this game i have one brewing a european coopers lager( very little foaming and scum ring is this normall), but was wondering if as said can substitues be used instead of the 1 kg or sugar
ta guys darran
if any one has tips on lager making and recipies etc or just guidence i would be most appreiciated for all help
Last edited by darran on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
No - hops provide bittering, flavour and aroma to the beer, but provide no fermentable sugars.darran wrote:in the initial fermentation process can i substitute some of the 1 kg of brewing sugars for 500 g of crushed hops 500g sugar and 500g hops
im new at this game i have one brewing a european coopers lager( very little foaming an scum ring is this normall), but was wondering if as said can substitues be used instead of the 1 kg or sugar
ta guys darran
if any one has tips on lager making and recipies etc or just guidence i would be most appreiciated for all help
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
ta mate as im a ver new brewer i mixed up a little i was meaning can i use crushed lager malt 500g instead of the full 1kg of sugar can i half and half
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
Not easily - it would need mashing. I would get a few kits under your belt 1st before looking at extract or all grain brewing.darran wrote:ta mate as im a ver new brewer i mixed up a little i was meaning can i use crushed lager malt 500g instead of the full 1kg of sugar can i half and half
If you want to easily improve the quality of a 1 can kit, try substituting all or part of your sugar with dried spraymalt.
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
ahhh spray malt iv came across that when having a peep is it straight forward
ps after or when 2nd fermentation in the keg is under way do i keep the cap on all the time do i release some pressure ect i have to appologise as i hav not got a scoobie what im doing
iv just puroed out a wee bit of the lager thaats been keged for about 3 days now looks very pale and clear smell nice tastes not to sweet dont know if its hoppy or malty taste iv not developed that old nose yet but it looks ok just wondering if itll turn out nice
ps ta for the reply
darran
ps after or when 2nd fermentation in the keg is under way do i keep the cap on all the time do i release some pressure ect i have to appologise as i hav not got a scoobie what im doing
iv just puroed out a wee bit of the lager thaats been keged for about 3 days now looks very pale and clear smell nice tastes not to sweet dont know if its hoppy or malty taste iv not developed that old nose yet but it looks ok just wondering if itll turn out nice
ps ta for the reply
darran
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
No live the lid on all the time and don't release any pressure. The point of secondary fermention is to help preserve the beer with CO2 and also it will create carbonation (make your beer fizzy)darran wrote:ahhh spray malt iv came across that when having a peep is it straight forward
ps after or when 2nd fermentation in the keg is under way do i keep the cap on all the time do i release some pressure ect i have to appologise as i hav not got a scoobie what im doing
iv just puroed out a wee bit of the lager thaats been keged for about 3 days now looks very pale and clear smell nice tastes not to sweet dont know if its hoppy or malty taste iv not developed that old nose yet but it looks ok just wondering if itll turn out nice
ps ta for the reply
darran
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
there is more tension in lager beer making than a war time situation ( 5 years service) you no the poo may hit the fan and are prepared but beer making is a mystery its nerve racking
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
After you have done your first kit you will know how it all works! The worst part is waiting for the beer to be ready and leaving it to age!
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
my real problem is reading the hydrometer it like physics just no and say yes where the scale ends and starts is beyond me 1.040 not a clue where that is
you have 1.000 then 4 section and it says 10 ahhh
so its 1.000
and in between are segments of 2 ie 1.012
1.014
1.016
1.018
1.01
1.02
1.03
1.04 etc etc
1.09
1.1 = mindnumingly storng beer
ok now iv sused that iv still not got a clue LOL
so when i keged my lager after 10 days and the reading was at the 45 grams per liter of sugar this is a very low % rating and thus gravity reading of 1.016 in that its nearly water so will i get lager as the end product
oh b stards
ps hydrometers should come with a squaddie or idiots guide
regards
darran
you have 1.000 then 4 section and it says 10 ahhh
so its 1.000
and in between are segments of 2 ie 1.012
1.014
1.016
1.018
1.01
1.02
1.03
1.04 etc etc
1.09
1.1 = mindnumingly storng beer
ok now iv sused that iv still not got a clue LOL
so when i keged my lager after 10 days and the reading was at the 45 grams per liter of sugar this is a very low % rating and thus gravity reading of 1.016 in that its nearly water so will i get lager as the end product
oh b stards
ps hydrometers should come with a squaddie or idiots guide
regards
darran
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
Yes so where it says 10 it will be 1010 or 1.010 so tarting you would have had 1040 and finishing you have wanted something below 1014 (1.014).darran wrote:my real problem is reading the hydrometer it like physics just no and say yes where the scale ends and starts is beyond me 1.040 not a clue where that is
you have 1.000 then 4 section and it says 10 ahhh
The higher the number the more sugar there still is within the solution.
Re: substituting of sugars for hops
so a reading when kegging of 1.016 isnot to bad ?? but i would want it around 1,010 for a fine lager ? should mine then be ok
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ok now im very confused
when looking at the oldhyrdrometer at the level of1.016 the coresponding levle of % alchohol is well below 2%
do you not want the hydro around the 4 or 5 % mark on thehydro which isat the 30mark soi guess thats 1.03
boolean algebra is not this confusing

when looking at the oldhyrdrometer at the level of1.016 the coresponding levle of % alchohol is well below 2%
do you not want the hydro around the 4 or 5 % mark on thehydro which isat the 30mark soi guess thats 1.03
boolean algebra is not this confusing

Re: substituting of sugars for hops
SCOTTMOSSI NOTICEDD THAT YOU USE IRN BRU bottles2l howmuch sugardo you usein priming these as i live next door to the factory its a quality source of bottles
regardsdarran stillwaiting fir thisbrewtobrew hmmitsgonabealong couple of weeks
regardsdarran stillwaiting fir thisbrewtobrew hmmitsgonabealong couple of weeks

Re: substituting of sugars for hops
Some hydrometers are for and wine and beer. The % mark is for wine, not beer. Just subtract your finishing reading from your starting reading, then use a calculator to get your ABV%. Download GW's Beerengine which has most of the calculators you'll need.