S-33 or S-04?

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mst3k

S-33 or S-04?

Post by mst3k » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:01 pm

Hi

Iam thinking of doing the brewferm triple with some spraymalt.

I don't trust the yeast that comes with all kits!

Due to it being 8% at the end, would you use SafBrew S-33? I use S-04 normally but 8% might be a bit high maybe?

Ta

Grate forum Jim, Keep up the good work.

Hoppkins

Post by Hoppkins » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:11 pm

I've used S-04 to ferment upto 9-11% before. I don't think you will have probelsm.

mysterio

Post by mysterio » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:12 pm

Maybe try the Brewferm Belgian yeast if you're using dry? Like Daab says its a good idea to pitch a couple of sachets and rehydrate.

Tripels really on a lot of fruity yeast character. I would even consider using the Brewferm hefe yeast.

Liquid yeast would be ideal though, one of the Trappist or Abbey strains.

mst3k

Post by mst3k » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:38 pm

Tanks for all that every1,

I think I will go for 2 x s-04, even tho there is only 9 liters of triple! I will demand that it will get to the end 1 way or another,
it can only go worng :wink:

Happy brewing :D

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:59 pm

Maybe you could try T-58? It would be closer in flavour to a Belgian yeast than S-04...which is nothing like it.

mst3k

Post by mst3k » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:46 pm

Sounds cool to me, being a bit of a newbie :D

I will give 2 x T-58 ago

Thanks

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Post by yojimbo » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:00 am

I would make the yeast up as a starter this will ensure its working well when pitched and gets on with it straight away.

You will be suprised how much difference this makes especially on a high gravity ale.
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oblivious

Post by oblivious » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:17 am

S-33 is not a Belgian strain, T58 make a good triple/wit,

I have pitch two rehydrated packs of T-58 into a wort with a gravity of 1.082, fermented like a volcano

mst3k

Post by mst3k » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:44 am

yojimbo wrote:I would make the yeast up as a starter
Thanks Yojimbo, But,

What do you mean by a starter? rehydrate?

Thanks

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Post by yojimbo » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:00 am

I have followed Wheelers advice on doing this.

You will need

An air lock

rubber bung to fit into glass milk bottle

A one pint milk bottle like you get from your milkman

A small funnel

Some spray malt

Your yeast you are using

Steralize everything. Put 3/4 of a pint of water into a sauce pan and bring to the boil I then add about 80g of spray malt stirr in well and simmer for 5 mins. Carefully pour this into the milk bottle (never had one shatter on me yet). Put some tin foil over the top and cool it down to about 18 to 20 c
at which point shake it well to airate put the yeast in let the yest rehydrate then give it another good shake. Finally fit airlock and leave untll you need to pitch into the beer. I would not leve it any longer than abut 24 hours as it can come to an end quite quickly if your not carefull.

This will get the yeast working and give you a lot more yeast to pitch with as it will have multiplied loads already.

Hope this makes sense have a look on DaaBs wibe site as he is bound to have someting ont there about this.
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tribs

Post by tribs » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:40 am

Its only a 9 litre kit, so one sachet would be sufficient.

A lot of the brewers on this forum happily use Brewferm yeasts. As long as the kit was well in date I'd use the yeast that came with the kit.

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:15 pm

yojimbo wrote:I would make the yeast up as a starter this will ensure its working well when pitched and gets on with it straight away.

You will be suprised how much difference this makes especially on a high gravity ale.
Quite frankly I wouldn't. One packet is plenty for 9 liters of anything. All making a starter would do in this case is add another possibility for infection with nothing to gain. There's 11 grams of yeast in a packet - to get any more cells you'd need a starter of 2-4 liters anyway.

Rehydrate the yeast by all means but a starter is a waste of time.

EDIT: In fact IMO there's little point ever making a starter for dried yeast. It's cheap. Just add more if you need to and properly rehydrate it. Liquid yeasts are a completely different ballgame though...

mst3k

Post by mst3k » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:38 pm

One packet is plenty for 9 litres of anything
That's what I thought, coz Safbrew T-58 is for 20 to 25 litres but triple is only 9 litres so 1 pack would be twice as much as I need anyhow.

but, being a bit of a newbie, I did'nt know

I think I will go with 1xT58, 75% light spraymalt, 25% B suger, yeast-vit and 1 hangover in the morning :D

tanks every1

steve_flack

Post by steve_flack » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:01 pm

mst3k wrote: That's what I thought, coz Safbrew T-58 is for 20 to 25 litres but triple is only 9 litres so 1 pack would be twice as much as I need anyhow.
For a 1.090 beer you need 8g of dry yeast to give the right cell count in 9L so you're a little over....won't hurt though.

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