First ever glass bottle failure!

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First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:12 pm

I was in my shed earlier and could smell a strange warm vinegary beer smell.

I opened a plastic crate that contains various bottles of homebrew that I have put aside for a mini Homebrew Festival in July, and my bottles were swimming in some off smelling Ale :shock:

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Unfortnately a bottle of my prized Coopers Extra Strong Vintage Ale had shed it's base, and spewed out into the sealed crate. This brew was bottled in November 2011, and I can only assume that the offending bottle had a flaw in it and must have got too warm in the shed!

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I suppose that I've been pretty lucky as this is my first glass failure, just gutted that it was a bottle of ESVA :(
Planning: AG#40 Porter B

On Tap:
AG#39 - Eureka Gold - 5.3%

Drinking (bottles):
AG#38 - A Pale Endeavour - 3.9%


Conditioning (bottles):

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Ditch » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:22 pm

Pretty gutted for ye, mate :(

Just look on the bright side: It wasn't a Keg that went west there. And that bottle never did a Suicide Bomber inside the crate.

Could have been a whole lot worse :shock:

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by lee1 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:26 pm

hi mate round a\t my pals on friday he opend a edme lager from a bottle it exploded all over his kitchen , we later discoverd it was a dirty bottle ,it was good watching him clean up before swmbo got home , anyway hope all the rest are ok mate [-o<
soon be dead thank beer for that no pain where im going :-)

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:24 pm

Ditch wrote:Pretty gutted for ye, mate :(

Just look on the bright side: It wasn't a Keg that went west there. And that bottle never did a Suicide Bomber inside the crate.

Could have been a whole lot worse :shock:
Agreed, I may have got off lightly :)
Planning: AG#40 Porter B

On Tap:
AG#39 - Eureka Gold - 5.3%

Drinking (bottles):
AG#38 - A Pale Endeavour - 3.9%


Conditioning (bottles):

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:27 pm

lee1 wrote:hi mate round a\t my pals on friday he opend a edme lager from a bottle it exploded all over his kitchen , we later discoverd it was a dirty bottle ,it was good watching him clean up before swmbo got home , anyway hope all the rest are ok mate [-o<
Lol, I had a similar experience with my first TC attempt, I cracked the cap off of a bottle in the kitchen and it emptied itself all over the cupboards infront of SWMBO!
Planning: AG#40 Porter B

On Tap:
AG#39 - Eureka Gold - 5.3%

Drinking (bottles):
AG#38 - A Pale Endeavour - 3.9%


Conditioning (bottles):

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Pinto » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:25 pm

How much priming sugar ? :lol:

Yet to have a bottle bomb myself, but i've got so much glass available now i can be mega fussy and select only the best ones :)
Primary 1: Nonthing
Primary 2 : Nothing
Primary 3 : None
Secondary 1 : Empty
Secondary 1 : None
DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Geezah » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:39 pm

I've not had a bottle blow on me yet, but had a few gushers and kitchen sprayers (Brewferm kits) :shock: i've since learnt to chill the first few bottles well before opening to tsest the carbonation levels.


Worst I've had is the necks of 2 bottles cracking while capping them.

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Monkeybrew » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:54 pm

Pinto wrote:How much priming sugar ? :lol:

Yet to have a bottle bomb myself, but i've got so much glass available now i can be mega fussy and select only the best ones :)
It was batch primed at 5g per litre, 3g per litre less than Coopers recommend. :roll:
Planning: AG#40 Porter B

On Tap:
AG#39 - Eureka Gold - 5.3%

Drinking (bottles):
AG#38 - A Pale Endeavour - 3.9%


Conditioning (bottles):

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Stomach » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:10 pm

Ouch! Thats bad, but as others have said, it could have been a hell of a lot worse if it had created a chain reaction!

Like Geezah, I have had at least two break whilst capping, and I have also had a leaky tap on a keg, but not a broken one in storage yet!!

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FV4 - Brewferm Tripple
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Conditioning:-

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Brewferm Abdij
Coopers Canadian Blonde

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Brainzzzzz » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:08 pm

in your views what is a better bottle glass or the plastic version ....

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by trucker5774 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:00 pm

I always prefer my ale on a hand pump but do enjoy a bottled beer. I would love to say I go to the trouble of using glass and capping them.............but I don't, I feel guilty every time I use my plastic bottles. Somehow it just seems wrong. However I keep doing it along side my barrelling and have never had one fail :wink:
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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Greatcthulhu » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:56 am

I usually make Ale and Keg it, but I've recently made a coopers Pilsner and have just got into making TC. Both of these are bottled in Coopers 500ml plastic bottles. They seem absolutely fine as far as I can see, although I think if I was going to bottle something special and let it mature for months I'd use glass. On the subject of plastic bottles, mine came with tamper proof lids, which leave a ring of plastic on the bottle when you unscrew the lid. Can I reuse these lids, or do I need to buy new ones each time?

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:46 am

I've only ever used the odd plastic bottle when I started out as I was short of glass. I didn't notice any negative differences between plastic and glass and the fact that a huge company like Coopers supply them with thier starter kits must say alot.

I just love popping a crown cap from a glass bottle of my own brew, its very satisfying :)

As for reusing plastic screw-on lids with plastic bottles, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't.

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Planning: AG#40 Porter B

On Tap:
AG#39 - Eureka Gold - 5.3%

Drinking (bottles):
AG#38 - A Pale Endeavour - 3.9%


Conditioning (bottles):

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Pinto » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:51 pm

They say its personal choice - there's no detriment to reuse of the caps, but some people prefer to use new, so they sell them too
Primary 1: Nonthing
Primary 2 : Nothing
Primary 3 : None
Secondary 1 : Empty
Secondary 1 : None
DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
Planning : AG #5 - Galaxy Pale (re-brew) / #6 - Alco-Brau (Special Brew Clone) / #7 Something belgian...
Projects : Mini-brew (12l brew length kit) nearly ready :D

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Re: First ever glass bottle failure!

Post by Mo06 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:27 am

I use swing top bottles, they seem to be pretty strong....

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And of course no capping is required.

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