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Ashbeck water

Post by Newbrew1 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:17 pm

I bough a 5 litre of ashbeck water 3 weeks ago and added 8 ml of star san. I have done this couple of years ago when first brewing.infact I still have a bottle in the shed wich is still clear, however with it being so long in shed I decided to buy a new 5 litre ashbeck water which I did. But now it's gone milky in colour. This never happened to ashbeck before, have they changed their water slightly :?: anyone got any ideas and is this still safe to use to sanitise
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by IPA » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:51 pm

Newbrew1 wrote:I bough a 5 litre of ashbeck water 3 weeks ago and added 8 ml of star san. I have done this couple of years ago when first brewing.infact I still have a bottle in the shed wich is still clear, however with it being so long in shed I decided to buy a new 5 litre ashbeck water which I did. But now it's gone milky in colour. This never happened to ashbeck before, have they changed their water slightly :?: anyone got any ideas and is this still safe to use to sanitise
If the ph of the solution is lower than 3 it still works according to Starsan. Remember though Starsan kills bacteria but it does not kill "wild" yeast.
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Newbrew1 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:30 pm

I thought starsan kill all things except brewing yeast if not whats the point of sanitising if the surface is still contaminated
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Pinto » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:07 pm

Newbrew1 wrote:I thought starsan kill all things except brewing yeast if not whats the point of sanitising if the surface is still contaminated
Wild yeasts will be quickly crowded out by the pitch of healthy brewers yeast so aren't per say such an issue. Bacterial infections however, multiply much more quickly so need to be eliminated to the fullest extent possible.
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Newbrew1 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:14 pm

Just got the missus to go to asda got 2 five litres water put 8 ml star san in each will leave 12 hours see if it's ok. Can't understand the ashbeck going cloudy when I've used it before. Do you think the star san could be faulty it's been in shed a year could it have spoiled
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by vacant » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:24 pm

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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Exiled Bradfordian » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:28 am

Where do you guys buy your starsan from? I've been meaning to invest for a while but haven't seen it in any homebrew shops and buying online seems to mean the postage bumps the price up rather a lot...
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by WalesAles » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:01 pm

Pinto wrote: per say
per se.

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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by IPA » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:03 pm

Pinto wrote:
Newbrew1 wrote:I thought starsan kill all things except brewing yeast if not whats the point of sanitising if the surface is still contaminated
Wild yeasts will be quickly crowded out by the pitch of healthy brewers yeast so aren't per say such an issue. Bacterial infections however, multiply much more quickly so need to be eliminated to the fullest extent possible.
If you are using more than one strain of yeast regularly in your brewery it does matter.
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Pinto » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:37 pm

WalesAles wrote:
Pinto wrote: per say
per se.

WA
The LAST man I'd ever expect to see verbal pendantry from...... :P :lol:
IPA wrote:
Pinto wrote:
Newbrew1 wrote:I thought starsan kill all things except brewing yeast if not whats the point of sanitising if the surface is still contaminated
Wild yeasts will be quickly crowded out by the pitch of healthy brewers yeast so aren't per say such an issue. Bacterial infections however, multiply much more quickly so need to be eliminated to the fullest extent possible.
If you are using more than one strain of yeast regularly in your brewery it does matter.

Again, only if you're after fermenting with the yeast of your choice; besides, if I were that worried about cross contamination, I'd be looking to carry out a sterilisaion step to do that - the final sanitisation step is just that - sanitising to elimiate bacteria.
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by WalesAles » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:44 pm

Pinto wrote:
WalesAles wrote:
Pinto wrote: per say
per se.

WA
The LAST man I'd ever expect to see verbal pendantry from...... :P :lol:



Who`s the FIRST then?

WA
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by WalesAles » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:48 pm

Pinto wrote:
WalesAles wrote:
Pinto wrote: per say
per se.

WA
The LAST man I'd ever expect to see verbal pendantry from...... :P :lol:
Pedantry.

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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Pinto » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:56 pm

WalesAles wrote:
The LAST man I'd ever expect to see verbal pendantry from...... :P :lol:
Pedantry.

WA
Glad to see you're awake, Walesy :lol:
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Secondary 1 : Empty
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DJ(1) : Nowt
DJ(2) : N'otin....
In the Keg : Nada
Conditioning : Nowt
In the bottle : Cinnamonator TC, Apple Boost Cider, Apple & Strawberry Cider
Planning : AG #5 - Galaxy Pale (re-brew) / #6 - Alco-Brau (Special Brew Clone) / #7 Something belgian...
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Secla » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:17 am

I use distilled water, found bottled water a big hit an miss, with distilled it stays crystal clear
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Re: Ashbeck water

Post by Exiled Bradfordian » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:22 am

WalesAles wrote:
Pinto wrote:
WalesAles wrote: per se.

WA
The LAST man I'd ever expect to see verbal pendantry from...... :P :lol:



Who`s the FIRST then?

WA
Me?
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