First Braumeister brew day water question.

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First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Yosh » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Hi guys,

I'm getting ready for my first braumeister brewday tomorrow, going from a recipe on the spediel site.

http://www.speidels-braumeister.de/38-d ... -beer.html

The recipe calls for "23 l of brewing water to start with plus sparging water"

I'm not going to bother sparging, so any ideas on how much water I should be treating?

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by IPA » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:12 am

Yosh wrote:Hi guys,

I'm getting ready for my first braumeister brewday tomorrow, going from a recipe on the spediel site.

http://www.speidels-braumeister.de/38-d ... -beer.html

The recipe calls for "23 l of brewing water to start with plus sparging water"

I'm not going to bother sparging, so any ideas on how much water I should be treating?
Sparge with 6 litres to maximise your efficiency. Lift the malt tube onto the stirrup leave the top filters in place and very slowly pour your sparge water, at 78 degrees, over them and leave to drain while you are raising the wort to boiling. After boil adjust volume to desired amount. Using this method you should achieve around 85 percent efficiency.
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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Yosh » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:27 pm

Ok thanks IPA, I will give it a try.

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by hambrook » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:10 am

Also worth just stiring the top couple of inches of the grain when it is resting on the stirrups to stop the water vanishing down the hole in the middle of the grain bed...
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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by IPA » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:17 am

hambrook wrote:Also worth just stiring the top couple of inches of the grain when it is resting on the stirrups to stop the water vanishing down the hole in the middle of the grain bed...
With the malt tube resting on the stirrup and filters in place there should not be a hole in the middle because it is blocked by the spindle
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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Yosh » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:30 am

Thanks guys, it worked out well. What a great bit of kit, the only problem I can see with the system is that I'm going to need to increase beer consumption to keep up with all the brewing I want to do.

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Matt12398 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:52 pm

I stopped sparging after the first brew. Still get more than 70% efficiency.

It's whatever works for you.

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by IPA » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:01 pm

Matt12398 wrote:I stopped sparging after the first brew. Still get more than 70% efficiency.

It's whatever works for you.
It works better with spraying. You need less grain
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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Matt12398 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:50 pm

I'm sure it does. I don't have a lot of space in my kitchen at the moment and not having to set up the buffalo for sparge water was easier with the space I had. It was just one less thing to worry about. When I compared the efficiency gain and offset that against the time, clean up etc. of an additional pot and the cost of a few more 100 g of malt I didn't really feel like I was gaining much. I might go back to sparging if I can sell my house and move.

When you fork out the best part of two grand on a brewing system efficiency is quite low down on your concerns.

That's just me though.

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by DeGarre » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:08 am

First time I brewed I did not sparge/rinse and I got 17 litres into the FV. When I started sparging I got 23-24 litres. You do the math...

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Yosh » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:27 am

DeGarre wrote:First time I brewed I did not sparge/rinse and I got 17 litres into the FV. When I started sparging I got 23-24 litres. You do the math...

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by Brewedout » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:05 pm

42l full volume mash. No sparge. Easier than heating water separately. Perhaps not as efficient but easier.

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by kev93_10 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:23 am

DeGarre wrote:First time I brewed I did not sparge/rinse and I got 17 litres into the FV. When I started sparging I got 23-24 litres. You do the math...
Different gravities though.

What gravity were you aiming for on both brews and what did you achieve?

Pointless saying "I got more beer" if all you did was dilute what you had. Anyone could add water to a FV and increase volume but was the finished product what you intended?

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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by IPA » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:01 am

kev93_10 wrote:
DeGarre wrote:First time I brewed I did not sparge/rinse and I got 17 litres into the FV. When I started sparging I got 23-24 litres. You do the math...
Different gravities though.

What gravity were you aiming for on both brews and what did you achieve?

Pointless saying "I got more beer" if all you did was dilute what you had. Anyone could add water to a FV and increase volume but was the finished product what you intended?

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88 percent efficiency every time. Which means I use the grain bill for a 23 litre brew to make 25 litres. Surely that makes sense.
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Re: First Braumeister brew day water question.

Post by fego » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:23 pm

I sparge using 2 boiled kettles (4litres) 'diluted' with a kettle of tap water. Roughly 70 degrees scooped in with a jug.

Not much effort and saves getting another vessel going. Works for me.
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