So this. If you're pouring ingredients into a machine, pressing a button, and walking away, it's not a hobby any more really. So I can't see devices like these really been popular with members on fora like this one. Single pot systems do well as they just combine equipment we already use into a more compact space, eg: timer, recipe databases, recirculation pumps etc, the hobbyist still has to go through a process to produce the beer. I know some hobbyists are in it for cheap beer, but they're not the target demographic here either really on a machine that's so expensive... But then I won't even buy ready built PCs, preferring to build my own.Secla wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:09 pmI think most people will see it as largely taking away what they enjoy about brewing. Most enjoy the practical aspect aswell as the final product !
It's an expensive system that has a long waiting time after delivery from a company that doesn't seem to have a great reputation. I'd guess it has limited appeal to anyone interested in a hobby rather than just making beer
As to the dishwasher comment (Zymotik, not Secla), it's a rare person who uses one to cook their meal for sure.... My hat goes off to you as a trail blazer in doing so.... j/k
PS. There are already 2 ways to not spend 5+ hours on a brew day. 1) Homebrew kits (yack!), 2) Extract brewing. Plenty of folks who don't have the time or inclination for all grain do enjoy extract brewing, as they still get to craft a beer themselves. Maybe cancel your order and look into this? You could buy a LOT of extract and hops for that...
PPS. I don't own a shed, or a garage, I brew in the kitchen, with my wife helping at various points in the process. It can be a good hobby for couples, as you get to create together AND enjoy the end product together. In fact, my wife came up with the hybrid sparging method that we used right up until I sorted out a recirculation pump, and was always able to get really good efficiency from the sparge when she did the pouring.