Help - Recipe needed

[MightyMouth]

Hi all,

I need a recipe for a 10 gallon brew using Ingredients I already have.

I have-

15kg MO
2kg Crystal
2.5kg Torrified wheat
100g Northdown 7.9%
94g Cascade 7.1%
40g Challenger 7%

I have recently made a hollywood IPA which was great and a very nice strong bitter with all goldings so something a bit different then these would be nice but anything would do.

Otherwise I will have to just make it up in Beersmith but was hoping for a good tried and tested brew, maybe a session beer of some kind.

[BigEd]

Hi all,

I need a recipe for a 10 gallon brew using Ingredients I already have.

I have-

15kg MO
2kg Crystal
2.5kg Torrified wheat
100g Northdown 7.9%
94g Cascade 7.1%
40g Challenger 7%

I have recently made a hollywood IPA which was great and a very nice strong bitter with all goldings so something a bit different then these would be nice but anything would do.

Otherwise I will have to just make it up in Beersmith but was hoping for a good tried and tested brew, maybe a session beer of some kind.

Keep it simple, IMO. You don't say what yeast or what configuration your hops are in so I assumed hop pellets and listed S-04 for the yeast. You may adjust as required. As an homage to the recent Cascade or Challenger hop thread I have made this an all-Challenger brew.



Category English Pale Ale
Subcategory Standard/Ordinary Bitter
Recipe Type All Grain
Batch Size 38 liters
Volume Boiled 46 liters
Mash Efficiency 72 %
Total Grain/Extract 7.00 kg.
Total Hops 55.0 g.


6 kg. Maris Otter Pale
.3 kg. British Crystal 55°L
.7 kg. Torrified Wheat
40 g. Challenger (Pellets, 7.10 %AA) boiled 90 min.
15 g. Challenger (Pellets, 7.10 %AA) boiled 15 min.
Yeast : DCL Yeast Safale S-04 Top Quality Ale Yeast

Predicted Standard/Ordinary Bitter Compliance
Original Gravity 1.039 1.032 - 1.040 100 %
Terminal Gravity 1.009 1.007 - 1.011 100 %
Color 12.82 °SRM 4.00 - 14.00 °SRM 100 %
Bitterness 29.8 IBU 25.00 - 35.00 IBU 100 %
Alcohol (%volume) 3.9 % 3.20 - 3.80 % 83 %
97 % overall

[Stonechat]

Where will the extra 15g of Challenger come from?

[MightyMouth]

Thanks BigEd,

Do you reckon I could use the cascade in place of the challenger as its the same AA% as the recipe? Mine are whole hops so does that make a difference, shouldnt think so but I don't know as I have never used pellets? I have some S-04 and some US-05 I like S-04 better though so would probably use that.

[BigEd]

Thanks BigEd,

Do you reckon I could use the cascade in place of the challenger as its the same AA% as the recipe? Mine are whole hops so does that make a difference, shouldnt think so but I don't know as I have never used pellets? I have some S-04 and some US-05 I like S-04 better though so would probably use that.

Oops, I didn't notice I used an extra 15g of hops you didn't have. For whole hops you need about 10% more by weight to get the same bittering as pellets.
I would use the Northdown in the bittering addition to make up the difference and keep the late addition of Challenger. I don't like Cascade at all and would not use it myself in a bitter. If you are fond of it perhaps try subbing it for the aroma addition of Challenger. Between the 05 and 04 yeast I would go with the 05 for this brew.

[tomU]

love Challenger, and if you have it will unashamedly suggest:

1.045-ish
90% Pale Malt
10% Crystal
24 IBU's full boil
6 IBU's 15 mins
Aroma if you fancy
Yeast of your choice (S-04 good, Notts not so good)


Pretty much followed this a couple of days ago. Went for 1042 SG and chucked 200g torrefied wheat into the mash. I used 10g challenger at 80c for aroma. Cheers for the recipe - looking forward to this one. Never used challenger before...

How about this but using cascade for the late additions? Then we can compare notes when they're done