Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

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Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by babalu87 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:35 pm

Supposedly Guinness adds 3% pastuerized sour beer back to each batch at processing.

Anyone ever try it?

I made 10 gallons of Irish Stout yesterday, half got Nottingham and the other half got Irish Ale from Wyeast.
I also took a quart aside at racking and put a handfull of grains in there to sour it up. Planning on re-boiling it once it sours and adding it to the Irish Ale fermented Stout at kegging.

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Re: Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by pantsmachine » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:36 am

I did it but no idea if it made any difference, the beer tasted great! SOmeone posted saying that Guiness used a bacteria to sour theirs. I used a bowl and time.

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Post by adm » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:53 am

Out of interest - did it taste like Guinness? Or better?

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Post by pantsmachine » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:03 am

It made guiness taste like a pint of Tennants. Seriously, i had two pints of mine and then went out. I could not taste the 1st pint of Guiness. In saying that the recipe i made does have quite a lot of roast barley in it. In my humble AG opinion Guiness is for poofs :lol:


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Re: Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by mysterio » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:22 pm

Sounds like a good way to ruin a beer. Guinness, at least the draught stuff you get in the UK, isn't sour in the slightest.

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Re: Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by edit1now » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 pm

I think the only soured Guinness you can get is the bottled Foreign Extra Stout. Protz & Wheeler suggested that Guinness blend some aged stout from wooden barrels (a year old?) with young fresh stout. You're supposed to get a bit of the Brettanomyces 'horse-blanket' aroma, and a touch of sourness in the mouth. I didn't like it enough to buy a second bottle.

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Post by boingy » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:18 pm

A cynic might wonder whether the sour beer thing is a ruse to confuse rival brewers when they copy the recipe: "Ah yes, we always add a tablespoon of ripe horsesh1t to every batch. That's what makes our beer so unique"...

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Re: Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by edit1now » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:27 pm

Rodenbach, Berliner Weisse...

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Post by oblivious » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:49 pm

I have been reliably to for a lab rat that work of Guinness that down sour the draught stout but the foreign extra gets a shot of lactic acid

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Re: Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by Aleman » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:20 pm

edit1now wrote:Rodenbach, Berliner Weisse...
Both of which are assertively, and obviously, sour . . . Guinness is neither . . . and nowadays neither is FES . . . although I used to detect a very faint trace way back when.

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Re: Anyone ever add "soured" beer to make a Guinness clone?

Post by Invalid Stout » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:33 am

The Nigerian FES seems to be slightly more sour than the Dublin version.

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