Wychwood Brewery - taste alikes?

[Valkyrie]

I am dying for a decent tipple, but Wychwood no longer export boxes to Europe - sad...

Suggestions for recipes similar to Black Witch, Circlemaster and Fiddlers Elbow anyone?
Extract method preferred, but would consider all grain - a mess in the kitchen is worth it!

Thanks all

[floydmeddler]

Brewed this a few moths ago (Wychwood's Hob Goblin Clone.) I can't tell you how delicious it was. Pretty much identical. Give it a go... You won't be disappointed.

All-Grain - Hob Goblin (AG)
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Recipe Type: All Grain
Yeast: Danstar Nottingham
Yeast Starter: No
Additional Yeast or Yeast Starter: Mo
Batch Size (Gallons): 6.5
Original Gravity: 1056
Final Gravity: 1012
IBU: 25
Boiling Time (Minutes): 60
Color: 17
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 7
Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 14

Hob Goblin II
Brew Type: All Grain
Style: English Old Ale
Brewer: Orfy
Batch Size: 23.00 L Boil Volume: 30.29 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.0 %
4.80 kg Marris Otter Pale (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain
0.25 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain
0.20 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain
0.15 kg Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain
Mash Ingredients
Mash In: Add 14.09 L of water at 78.2 C
90 min - Hold mash at 69.0 C for 90 min
Add first wort hops to boiler at start of sparge
Amount Item Type
15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops
Drain Mash Tun
Batch Sparge Round 1: Sparge with 14.67 L of 78.0 C water.
Batch Sparge Round 2: Sparge with 9.93 L of 78.0 C water.
Add water to achieve boil volume of 30.29 L
Estimated Pre-boil Gravity is: 1.042 SG with all grains/extracts added
Boil for 60 min Start to Boil.
30 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (30 min) (Flavour Hop)
30 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (30 min) (Flavour Hop)
50 min into boil Add 1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min)
60 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
60 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
Cool wort to fermentation temperature
Add water (as needed) to achieve volume of 23.00 L
Siphon wort to primary fermenter and aerate wort.
Add Ingredients to Fermenter
Amount Item Type 1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale
20/12/2006 Measure Original Gravity: ________ (Estimate: 1.056 SG)


Taste Rating (50 possible points): 50.0
Hobgoblin is a powerful full-bodied copper red, well-balanced brew. Strong in roasted malt with a moderate hoppy bitterness and slight fruity character that lasts through to the end. A full chocolate malt flavour beer by the addition of a small proportion.

[haz66]

Here`s my version of the Fiddlers Elbow clone

3000g MO Pale Malt
400g Wheat Malt
200g Crystal Malt
200g Cane Suger (Straight into the Boiler)
30g Styrian Goldings 60mins AA4.5%
20g " " 20mins
10g " " 10mins
10g " " 0mins
1 Protafloc Tablet @ 20mins
11g Safale S04 Yeast

IBU`s 20.29
OG1039 @ 75% Effeciency giving 4%ABV

Edit I posted my latest version which isnt as good as the one before, so i edited it to version 5

[Valkyrie]

Thank you both, I'm in the middle of tracking down the ingredients right now

Just one query: protafloc tablet ?!? I don't know that one, is it a yeast nutrient....

[tangoman]

Just one query: protafloc tablet ?!?

Irish Moss

[garwatts]

Here`s my version of the Fiddlers Elbow clone

3000g MO Pale Malt
400g Wheat Malt
200g Crystal Malt
200g Cane Suger (Straight into the Boiler)
30g Styrian Goldings 60mins AA4.5%
20g " " 20mins
10g " " 10mins
10g " " 0mins
1 Protafloc Tablet @ 20mins
11g Safale S04 Yeast

IBU`s 20.29
OG1039 @ 75% Effeciency giving 4%ABV

Edit I posted my latest version which isnt as good as the one before, so i edited it to version 5

May have missed it but what was the batch size please? Also Cane sugar in at start of boil?

Cheers

[delboy]

Brewed this a few moths ago (Wychwood's Hob Goblin Clone.) I can't tell you how delicious it was. Pretty much identical. Give it a go... You won't be disappointed.

All-Grain - Hob Goblin (AG)
________________________________________
Recipe Type: All Grain
Yeast: Danstar Nottingham
Yeast Starter: No
Additional Yeast or Yeast Starter: Mo
Batch Size (Gallons): 6.5
Original Gravity: 1056
Final Gravity: 1012
IBU: 25
Boiling Time (Minutes): 60
Color: 17
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 7
Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 14

Hob Goblin II
Brew Type: All Grain
Style: English Old Ale
Brewer: Orfy
Batch Size: 23.00 L Boil Volume: 30.29 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.0 %
4.80 kg Marris Otter Pale (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain
0.25 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain
0.20 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain
0.15 kg Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain
Mash Ingredients
Mash In: Add 14.09 L of water at 78.2 C
90 min - Hold mash at 69.0 C for 90 min
Add first wort hops to boiler at start of sparge
Amount Item Type
15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops
Drain Mash Tun
Batch Sparge Round 1: Sparge with 14.67 L of 78.0 C water.
Batch Sparge Round 2: Sparge with 9.93 L of 78.0 C water.
Add water to achieve boil volume of 30.29 L
Estimated Pre-boil Gravity is: 1.042 SG with all grains/extracts added
Boil for 60 min Start to Boil.
30 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (30 min) (Flavour Hop)
30 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (30 min) (Flavour Hop)
50 min into boil Add 1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min)
60 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
60 min into boil Add 15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
Cool wort to fermentation temperature
Add water (as needed) to achieve volume of 23.00 L
Siphon wort to primary fermenter and aerate wort.
Add Ingredients to Fermenter
Amount Item Type 1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale
20/12/2006 Measure Original Gravity: ________ (Estimate: 1.056 SG)


Taste Rating (50 possible points): 50.0
Hobgoblin is a powerful full-bodied copper red, well-balanced brew. Strong in roasted malt with a moderate hoppy bitterness and slight fruity character that lasts through to the end. A full chocolate malt flavour beer by the addition of a small proportion.

I think thats orfys hobgoblin clone recipe, a lot of people have brewed it and rate it highly. Personally i'd look beyond nottingham as the yeast though (its a bit non-descript/one dimensional IMO).

[floydmeddler]

Aye, this is Orfy's recipe. I used Safale 04 when i brewed it. Turned out fantastic. Can't wait to brew it again in 2 weeks time.

[haz66]

Here`s my version of the Fiddlers Elbow clone

3000g MO Pale Malt
400g Wheat Malt
200g Crystal Malt
200g Cane Suger (Straight into the Boiler)
30g Styrian Goldings 60mins AA4.5%
20g " " 20mins
10g " " 10mins
10g " " 0mins
1 Protafloc Tablet @ 20mins
11g Safale S04 Yeast

IBU`s 20.29
OG1039 @ 75% Effeciency giving 4%ABV

Edit I posted my latest version which isnt as good as the one before, so i edited it to version 5

May have missed it but what was the batch size please? Also Cane sugar in at start of boil?

Cheers

Sorry, the batch size is 23ltrs and i just pop the sugar in just after the boil gets going.

[cooldad]

Brewed this reciepe for hobgoblin for a friend ,used wyeast 1098 came out fantastic the friend I brewed it for is now an AG convert.