1st all grain recipe advice

[spiderpig]

hi am nearly ready to have a go at my first all grain brew but not sure what to brew am very fond of lager with saaz hops but have not got a temp control cupboard and don't want to try and run before i can walk
would like something what tastes lagerish but can be ready to drink quickly and don't want to worry to much about temp etc

[Whorst]

That's going to be difficult to achieve. You may want to use Saflager S-23. I heard it does well at higher temps.

[OldSpeckledBadger]

The only thing which tastes like lager is lager.

[Whorst]

You'd be pretty suprised what UK-05 can do with all lager malt, tettnanger hops, and fermented cool. Pretty damn close.

[adm]

I've got to agree with Whorst on this one....... I did a similar beer a while back, and it tasted very lagerish indeed - it even fooled some of my lager drinking mates (although the colour was a bit too dark, they still accepted it was "Czech style" lager without question)

Of course, it wouldn't have fooled a seasoned ale drinker, or any kind of homebrewer, but them's the breaks!

Loki's Lager