"diving in the deep" what u think

[jonny8ball]

okok here it goes im trying all my odd end`s of grain and putting into beersmith to come up with something,and come up with this what you think:

44l batch
Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU

8.63 kg Pale Malt, 83.4 %
0.42 kg Carafa II 4.0 %
0.42 kg Crystal Malt - 60L 4.0 %
0.36 kg Brown Malt 3.5 %
0.20 kg Roasted Barley 2.0 %
0.20 kg Wheat, Torrified 1.9 %
0.13 kg pale Chocolate Malt 1.3 %

28.83 g Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min 22.0 IBUs
48.05 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min 7.9 IBUs
48.05 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min 4.7 IBUs
40.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Aroma Steep 80c - 20min

was thinking of up-in the crystal to around the 7% mark mashing at 67c.. you think im going in a good direction

[seymour]

Looks pretty good, a lot of grain complexity, but at very low percentages overall, tons of American grapefruity essence, should be a prototypical American IPA. Got any more chocolate malt? Might be fun to take it a Brown IPA direction and dump lots more of that in. Got any other hops to round things out a bit? Any form of Goldings, maybe?

[jonny8ball]

iv got lodes of different stuff..iv got "east kent" and lodes of chocy

what amount of choc? its light choc

and were would you put the kent at the end with the cascade or around the 30min mark? amount?

[jonny8ball]

it is quit dark with these amounts of malts

Est Color: 60.3 EBC

i might reduce the amounts of cascade by 10gs on the 20-10 mins additions, grapefruity essence and dark malty finish might not go to well time will tell im brewing it on week end

[seymour]

...lodes of chocy...what amount of choc? its light choc...it is quit dark with these amounts of malts...

Personally, I'd drop the brown malt and roasted barley and make the chocolate 20%. Don't be afraid of the dark!

...iv got "east kent"...were would you put the kent at the end with the cascade or around the 30min mark? amount?

Again, this is just me, but I'd use equal amounts of Cascade and EKG at 30 minutes remaining and again at flameout. The idea is to still emphasize citrusy aspects, but no longer a one-dimensional grapefruit bomb, it should now have layers of well-balanced zesty citric tartness, earthy, flowery, apricoty notes. Can't you imagine with that grainbill? A sublime whack-it chocolate orange beer. Mmmm...

[jonny8ball]

well you got me all worded up now


second attempt

7.46 kg Pale Malt, 74.0 %
1.34 kg pale Chocolate Malt (500.0 EBC) 13.3 %
0.46 kg Carafa II 4.5 %
0.46 kg Crystal Malt - 60L 4.5 %
0.37 kg Barley, Flaked 3.6 %

28.83 g Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min 22.3 IBUs
24.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min 4.0 IBUs
24.00 g East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min 3.7 IBUs
30.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min 3.0 IBUs
24.00 g East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 2.4 IBUs
20.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min 0.0 IBUs
20.00 g East Kent [5.00 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min 0.0 IBUs

44litres
Bitterness: 35.4 IBUs
Est Color: 75.5 EBC

[seymour]

Giddyup!