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Morland Original recipe wanted

Post by orlando » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:46 pm

Hi Guys,

Had a pint of this last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. Greene King might brew it and destroyed the brewery but I still liked what they had brewed so wondered if any one knows what's in it. I have had a run of using American hops and want to have a "proper" pint of traditional bitter. If I can brew something like it I will be really happy.
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Re: Morland Original recipe wanted

Post by seymour » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:03 pm

I've never had it, but I'd love to. How would you say it differed from Old Speckled Hen?

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Re: Morland Original recipe wanted

Post by orlando » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:06 am

I suppose if you were trying to classify them then they are an ordinary bitter and a best bitter. the Hen is a maltier brew with what tastes to me like it might have chocolate malt in it and a slightly sweeter edge. Morland Original is the classic session bitter and would be easier on the palate over the whole evening.

If I can't get hold of a clone recipe for this I'm going to do a SMaSH with a difference. I have been given an experimental breed of an old pale malt called Chevalier that was originally bred around the mid 1800's by the Reverend Chevalier, a rector in Suffolk just across the border from me. I have some Flyer hops to flavour it with that I haven't used before so quite an interesting brew. I hope to get hold of some local microbrewery yeast to really up the game and bottle to have in the Spring.
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Re: Morland Original recipe wanted

Post by seymour » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:51 pm

Your SMASH idea sounds like a tasty batch, though I wouldn't expect it to come out much like Morland Original. According to Roy Protz' Real Ale Almanac and other statements from the brewer:

Morland Original Bitter
Ingredients: Pale, Crystal Malt, Sugar (I would guess it's similar to Old Speckled Hen, 80-10-10, just less quantity overall)
OG: 1035
Bittering hops: Challenger
Later aroma hops: Goldings
IBU: 33-37
Colour: 11°SRM/21°EBC

You should try to use their own yeast strain, too. Jim's member floydmeddler recultured yeast from bottle-conditioned Morlands Hen's Tooth and has excellent things to say about its performance in his own homebrew batches.

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Re: Morland Original recipe wanted

Post by orlando » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:36 pm

Thanks Seymour. I'm going to do the SMaSH anyway (now called Knight Flyer), but now I have this recipe I will have a crack at this as well to keg, trouble is I see they use/d Pipkin Malt, at least they did before Greene King took them over, I wonder if it is still the same. I will try and get hold of a couple of bottles of Hen's Tooth, anyone know if a supermarket chain does them? You know it always amazes me that you can get so much complexity in a beer from such a simple list of ingredients, alchemy isn't it?
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Re: Morland Original recipe wanted

Post by seymour » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:48 pm

Pipkin is simply the agricultural name for a specific English barley cultivar, closely related to Maris Otter, Halcyon, Golden Promise, etc. In reality, any English pale ale base malt will be a perfectly suitable substitute.

If you wanna be really obsessive-compulsive about it: the Pipkin cultivar was most popular in the late 1980s and 1990s, but phased-out because it led to comparatively too much DMS. Many people consider that a flaw, so they switched their loyalty to Maris Otter, but if you consider a little DMS an essential component of Morland's taste, than substitute some of the base malt with lager or pils malt.
orlando wrote:...You know it always amazes me that you can get so much complexity in a beer from such a simple list of ingredients, alchemy isn't it?
Exactly! That's the magic of English brewing history that I'm always trying to conjure up.

Cheers, and happy brewing!

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